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LTNman
28th Jan 2023, 06:22
https://www.plymouthherald.co.uk/news/plymouth-news/bid-plymouth-airport-reopen-council-8077776


Plymouth’s business bosses are to be asked to back a council bid to reopen the city’s mothballed airport.
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VickersVicount
28th Jan 2023, 08:06
This is another non-starter. Add to the Swansea pile.

sealo0
28th Jan 2023, 08:16
Amazon won’t be pleased they have warehouse at end of the runway, still could planes in through the open door.

SWBKCB
28th Jan 2023, 08:22
This is another non-starter. Add to the Swansea pile.

Swansea's probably more viable. Wasn't the site so constrained that the biggest thing that could effectively operate into there was the DHC-8 300? Even if they could re-open it, who could operate there?

Jerbourg
28th Jan 2023, 09:55
Even if they could re-open it, who could operate there?

Air Alderney I expect....

Akrotiri bad boy
28th Jan 2023, 10:01
When the airport passed to its current owners, circa 2010, a pressure group made of of local business owners rallied against the council and its short term focus, now the council wants businesses to back it? The main runway is constrained by steeply sloping contours at either end, any extension would require an awful lot of land aquisition and piling. With regards to the secondary runway Plymouth City Council approved the bulldozing of an access road across the threshold at one end and the building of three storey town houses within metres of the piano keys at the other end. I think the city council has shot itself in both feet.

EGPO
28th Jan 2023, 18:44
This is the second thread , or third counting Swansea ( that in itself seems far fetched, given whispers of the viability of an airport the size of Cardiff) , but what with Manston, and now this , yet they close Doncaster , an airport that had it had better owners , and more interest in it's viability from local authorities, would have made an ideal ' Yorkshire airport ', LBA, however you look at it, is constrained, and often affected by bad weather , a point well made when recent bad weather had diversions wishing DSA was active .
So the notion of trying to reopen Plymouth, especially on the day that we sadly read that Flybe has again gone bust, which might have been one of the few airlines able to serve Plymouth.
So the question is, why try reopen Plymouth, when in that region , you have Newquay, Bristol, Exeter , Bournemouth and even Southampton.
Is there even demand , when there are some really concrete proposals to restore lost railway lines , even restoring the line west of Oakhampton , a so called , Metro West , plus other branch lines opening, all of which would give great links to London , and probably Heathrow.

Also is it not true that over in France Domestic alr travel is to be reduced and replaced with rail links.
Im no expert but another tiny airport , when bigger places like Cardiff are apparently on the rocks , surley cannot be anything more than a pipe dream .
And are we now seeing a ' Beeching' type view of regional airports , given how the environmental lobby are successfully pushing rail reopening.

01475
29th Jan 2023, 00:42
I think the city council has shot itself in both feet.

On the contrary, I would say that councils like to support things that are so impossible that they are guaranteed never to be asked to put their hands in their pockets in order to demonstrate their support!

Asturias56
29th Jan 2023, 07:35
"local Businesses" are keen on a lot of things as long as they don't have to pay for them

Blackfriar
29th Jan 2023, 08:50
When the airport passed to its current owners, circa 2010, a pressure group made of of local business owners rallied against the council and its short term focus, now the council wants businesses to back it? The main runway is constrained by steeply sloping contours at either end, any extension would require an awful lot of land aquisition and piling. With regards to the secondary runway Plymouth City Council approved the bulldozing of an access road across the threshold at one end and the building of three storey town houses within metres of the piano keys at the other end. I think the city council has shot itself in both feet.

And all those people's houses are now blighted by uncertainty. Who would buy their house knowing the airport might be reopened? They might even have a claim against the Council.
A plan was mooted many years ago to close Exeter and Plymouth and build a brand new airport somewhere in between near the Devon Expressway. It would have been more sensible.
At present it's probably no further in time by car to drive from Plymouth to Bristol than it is from Cardiff, and Bristol is packed with Welsh accents when I fly from there.
The alternative is Newquay for those further afield.

Blackfriar
29th Jan 2023, 08:52
This is the second thread , or third counting Swansea ( that in itself seems far fetched, given whispers of the viability of an airport the size of Cardiff) , but what with Manston, and now this , yet they close Doncaster , an airport that had it had better owners , and more interest in it's viability from local authorities, would have made an ideal ' Yorkshire airport ', LBA, however you look at it, is constrained, and often affected by bad weather , a point well made when recent bad weather had diversions wishing DSA was active .
So the notion of trying to reopen Plymouth, especially on the day that we sadly read that Flybe has again gone bust, which might have been one of the few airlines able to serve Plymouth.
So the question is, why try reopen Plymouth, when in that region , you have Newquay, Bristol, Exeter , Bournemouth and even Southampton.
Is there even demand , when there are some really concrete proposals to restore lost railway lines , even restoring the line west of Oakhampton , a so called , Metro West , plus other branch lines opening, all of which would give great links to London , and probably Heathrow.

Also is it not true that over in France Domestic alr travel is to be reduced and replaced with rail links.
Im no expert but another tiny airport , when bigger places like Cardiff are apparently on the rocks , surley cannot be anything more than a pipe dream .
And are we now seeing a ' Beeching' type view of regional airports , given how the environmental lobby are successfully pushing rail reopening.
Bournemouth ans Southampton are not in "that region". You have clearly never travelled from Exeter to Bournemouth by car or train, let alone Southampton. Heathrow is closer in time.

SWBKCB
29th Jan 2023, 08:53
At present it's probably no further in time by car to drive from Plymouth to Bristol than it is from Cardiff, and Bristol is packed with Welsh accents when I fly from there.

Google Maps disagree's - it says about double.

rustythumb
30th Jan 2023, 14:46
Bournemouth ans Southampton are not in "that region". You have clearly never travelled from Exeter to Bournemouth by car or train, let alone Southampton. Heathrow is closer in time.
Bournemouth is actually in the South West region of England, albeit at the Eastern extremity.