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ILSapproach
23rd Jan 2023, 15:54
I had a EASA CPL before Brexit and now I have a UK CPL, to get my license converted back to EASA, Austria's Austro have said they would accept my radiotelephony but I would need to get this recognised by Austria's ministry of transport.

I'm having problems finding out more information about this, has anyone else had anything similar or any dealings with Austria's ministry of transport?

Thank you

mattpilot
24th Jan 2023, 13:57
I just did that the other week.

Here's the link: https://www.fb.gv.at/Pruefungen/pruefungen-flug.html // Direct link to form -> https://www.fb.gv.at/dam/jcr:7d86a8fb-c0f0-4b97-9b4f-90d8b3148db8/Funkerzeugnis_Anerkennung%20(2).pdf

Sorry, but i couldn't find an english version.

Once i sent it in, i received an email the next day informing me it was accepted and i had a PDF with a copy of the validation... which was honestly not very impressive ;-). I hope to get the the other stuff i sent in back in the mail.. who knows.

ILSapproach
25th Jan 2023, 11:15
I just did that the other week.

Here's the link: // Direct link to form ->

Sorry, but i couldn't find an english version.

Once i sent it in, i received an email the next day informing me it was accepted and i had a PDF with a copy of the validation... which was honestly not very impressive ;-). I hope to get the the other stuff i sent in back in the mail.. who knows.

Thank you so much for that information Matt it was driving me mad trying to find any information, appreciate that.

How did you prove to the Austrians that you already had a telephony license? Did you send them a copy of your FCL license (Mentions the telephony qualification on it)

Thanks Matt

mattpilot
25th Jan 2023, 12:30
Thank you so much for that information Matt it was driving me mad trying to find any information, appreciate that.

How did you prove to the Austrians that you already had a telephony license? Did you send them a copy of your FCL license (Mentions the telephony qualification on it)

Thanks Matt

Well per the form, you need to include the original or a notarized copy of not only your RADIOTELEPHONE licence, but also your birth certificate. I included originals of the US FCC licence and birth certificate, as it was cheaper requesting new certificates than getting it notorized. And the FCC doesn't issue paper copies anymore - only digital - so i just printed one off, signed it, and sent it in.

The "validation" i got simply said the licence that I obtained from the FCC is valid in Austria. Literally no certificate number referenced on the validation. Which is what i ment when i wrote earlier it wasn't very 'impressive' ;-).

Now i assume from your question, you dont have a seperate radiotelephone licence and in your country it is part of the FCL licence? In that case, i dont know what to tell you. When i inquired with austrocontrol whether i had to get it validated or if in austria it is also part of the FCL, i only got a half-answer that i had to validate it via that link i posted. I assume therefore they are seperate licences in Austria.

You could try emailing Mr. Gschwendt (contact details on the link), but I'd suggest writing in German. At the bottom of the page they let you know how they feel about English: "NEIN! Amtssprache ist Deutsch." :E

parkfell
26th Jan 2023, 13:08
If you held a UK CPL, you would have taken a FRTOL (R/T test) for UK licence issue. Refer to CAP2325 & CAP2118 for current requirements.
EASA I believe don’t require a separate R/T test for their CPL issue.

ILSapproach
27th Jan 2023, 17:59
Well per the form, you need to include the original or a notarized copy of not only your RADIOTELEPHONE licence, but also your birth certificate. I included originals of the US FCC licence and birth certificate, as it was cheaper requesting new certificates than getting it notorized. And the FCC doesn't issue paper copies anymore - only digital - so i just printed one off, signed it, and sent it in.

The "validation" i got simply said the licence that I obtained from the FCC is valid in Austria. Literally no certificate number referenced on the validation. Which is what i ment when i wrote earlier it wasn't very 'impressive' ;-).

Now i assume from your question, you dont have a seperate radiotelephone licence and in your country it is part of the FCL licence? In that case, i dont know what to tell you. When i inquired with austrocontrol whether i had to get it validated or if in austria it is also part of the FCL, i only got a half-answer that i had to validate it via that link i posted. I assume therefore they are seperate licences in Austria.

You could try emailing Mr. Gschwendt (contact details on the link), but I'd suggest writing in German. At the bottom of the page they let you know how they feel about English: "NEIN! Amtssprache ist Deutsch." :E

Thanks for your help Matt, appreciate it, it looks like I'm going to have to send Mr Gschwendt an email in German via google translate :)

ILSapproach
27th Jan 2023, 18:01
If you held a UK CPL, you would have taken a FRTOL (R/T test) for UK licence issue. Refer to CAP2325 & CAP2118 for current requirements.
EASA I believe don’t require a separate R/T test for their CPL issue.

No EASA don't require a separate R/T test but they need to validate my completed one on my UK CPL license for conversion to a EASA license, this is not done by Austro Control but by one of the government ministries in Austria