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9Aplus
22nd Jan 2023, 14:04
FAA approaching to the 5G subject carefully, with some ban area around major airports.
The Sikorsky reporting the upgrades on S92 machines.
The EASA takes "the thing" more politically - no incident (yet) - no problem exist.

How about you people WW?

212man
22nd Jan 2023, 16:22
No experience, but interesting notes here: https://www.icao.int/safety/FSMP/MeetingDocs/FSMP%20WG11/IP/FSMP-WG11-IP08_ICAO%20Flight%20Operations%20Panel%20and%20IATA%20%20IF ALPA%205G%20problem%20statement.pdf

9Aplus
22nd Jan 2023, 18:49
No experience, but interesting notes here: https://www.icao.int/safety/FSMP/MeetingDocs/FSMP%20WG11/IP/FSMP-WG11-IP08_ICAO%20Flight%20Operations%20Panel%20and%20IATA%20%20IF ALPA%205G%20problem%20statement.pdf

Yes, that was sort of an early warning paper.
EASA have some contribution too, on the last ETSO workshop proceedings
etso_workshop_2022_-_day_2_avionics_slides.zip (https://www.easa.europa.eu/sites/default/files/dfu/etso_workshop_2022_-_day_2_avionics_slides.zip)

But no one reported any incident related to helicopters, yet...?

Asking on purpose, because we recently find out that something in approach to the new helipad project
is not air conditioning unit - it is hidden antenna stack. The helicopter suppose to fly less than 30 m above that white "box".

The H site suppose to receive LPV200 (EGNOS (WAAS) GPS) approach.
3400-3800 MHz is the near active band, the power goes up to 45 W per channel stack plus possible antenna on spot gain.
The power of RADALT is 1 W range, around 4200-4300 MHz in dependent on model. (ref. on civil certified units)

gipsymagpie
22nd Jan 2023, 21:15
The issue is much less in Europe than in the USA as there is much better separation between 5G and radar altimeters. So I would expect that levels of reporting would be significantly lower.