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Finningley Boy
8th Nov 2022, 00:43
Has anyone heard anything more about the carbon munching jet fuel which was brought to public attention last year?
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212man
8th Nov 2022, 08:25
Has anyone heard anything more about the carbon munching jet fuel which was brought to public attention last year?
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I think you mean ‘brought to your attention last year’
https://www.neste.com/products/all-products/saf?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIptWOt6Ge-wIVEPlRCh1TjQE2EAAYASAAEgL06vD_BwE#92b701d0
https://www.shell.com/business-customers/aviation/the-future-of-energy/sustainable-aviation-fuel.html
https://www.bp.com/en/global/air-bp/aviation-fuel/sustainable-aviation-fuel.html
Fortyodd2
8th Nov 2022, 10:45
Google Professor Tony Marmont - he's been doing the "making fuel out of fresh air" thing for quite some time.
Ninthace
8th Nov 2022, 10:51
There is a potentially greener e-fuel manufactured by the combination of green hydrogen with captured atmospheric carbon dioxide. This is a genuine low carbon solution but I wonder if a jet engine could be developed to run off the product, the second link hints at it. A pilot project run by Porsche and Siemens is running in Chile using renewable energy.
https://newsroom.porsche.com/en/2020/company/porsche-siemens-energy-pilot-project-chile-research-development-synthetic-fuels-efuels-23021.html
https://arstechnica.com/cars/2022/04/porsche-invests-75-million-in-chilean-synthetic-fuel-startup/
Ninthace
8th Nov 2022, 10:57
Google Professor Tony Marmont - he's been doing the "making fuel out of fresh air" thing for quite some time.
Not so much thin air as the Sabatier and Senderens Reaction which was discovered in 1902. See the story I have linked to above which uses the same reaction.
dead_pan
8th Nov 2022, 11:00
Arrghh, the ol' crusties are out in force!
Check your terminology - SAF relates to the use of existing feedstocks (domestic waste etc) to produce so-called drop-in fuels for aviation. e-fuels (or whatever - there are many terms in use) relate to technologies to convert atmospheric CO2 in hydrocarbons using renewable energy, a much longer term and way trickier prospect.
There's been loads of articles about the former in Flight in you're interested.
NHV completes the first sustainable aviation flight in the offshore wind industry
NHV is the first helicopter operator to carry out a Sustainable Aviation Fuel (SAF) flight in the offshore wind industry, in collaboration with partner TotalEnergies.
This project marks the beginning of a long-term collaboration between the two companies to support their commitment to the energy transition.
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https://nhv.be/about/news/nhv-completes-the-first-sustainable-aviation-flight-in-the-offshore-wind-industry