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Ddraig Goch
22nd Oct 2022, 04:17
After reports of the breaking of undersea cables around Shetland another has appeared between Norway and Svalbard has occured.

An undersea fiberoptic cable located between mainland Norway and the Svalbard archipelago in the Arctic Ocean has been put out of action in a still-mysterious incident. The outage on the subsea communications cable — the furthest north of its kind anywhere in the world — follows an incident last year in which different cables linking an undersea surveillance network off the Norwegian coast were severed, a story that we covered in detail at the time (https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/43094/norwegian-undersea-surveillance-network-had-its-cables-mysteriously-cut).
The Drive/Warzone.

Link here:https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/43828/undersea-cable-connecting-norway-with-arctic-satellite-station-has-been-mysteriously-severed

Are our friends from the East involved?

jolihokistix
22nd Oct 2022, 05:03
Some extra rough trawling going on recently?

The cynic asks, "or disabling systems in advance?"

Asturias56
22nd Oct 2022, 07:44
Trawling definitely according to the Faeroes - and it sounded like they had a pretty good idea of the culprits were and it was local guys. Apparently the links are damaged regularly - they just don't get any headlines. The fact they were able to mobilise a repair boat immediately suggests this was nothing new

biddedout
22nd Oct 2022, 08:19
Knowing when the failure in the cable occurred and with so much ship tracking data, the authorities must have a very good idea of which vessel might be the culprit. It's interesting to see that there are several fishing vessels labelled as Shetland Link Guard operating around Wick.

jolihokistix
22nd Oct 2022, 08:35
See original post. Different cable, between Norway and Svalbard. More suspicious, with fishing vessel less likely.

Ddraig Goch
24th Oct 2022, 06:30
Latest cable "failures" https://www.netcost-security.fr/actu...-monde-entier/



Damaged European submarine cables impact internet connectivity worldwide

Several undersea cables in the south of France were cut overnight, rendering internet access globally unreliable. Engineers have fixed a broken link and investigations are still ongoing. Russian submarines have been blamed for the Ukrainian conflict, but investigators have yet to find evidence to support this hypothesis.

jolihokistix
24th Oct 2022, 06:46
Wow, so many coincidences! Almost out of the ordinary.

Surely Europe is not falling to pieces all at once and as quickly as this.

Asturias56
24th Oct 2022, 07:40
Unless we know what the "normal" breakage rate it's impossible to tell. Anything with "cable" in it now goes into the news flow

for example this doesn't seem to have been a Russian plot

The 2008 submarine cable disruption refers to three separate incidents of major damage to submarine optical communication cables around the world. The first incident caused damage involving up to five high-speed Internet (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet) submarine communications cables (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Submarine_communications_cable) in the Mediterranean Sea (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mediterranean_Sea) and Middle East (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middle_East) from 23 January to 4 February 2008, causing internet disruptions and slowdowns for users in the Middle East and India (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/India). The incident called into doubt the safety of the undersea portion of the Internet cable system.

In late February there was another outage, this time affecting a fiber optic connection between Singapore (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Singapore) and Jakarta (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jakarta).

Exrigger
24th Oct 2022, 08:44
Found this article,

https://www.csis.org/analysis/invisible-and-vital-undersea-cables-and-transatlantic-security#:~:text=However%2C%20it%20should%20be%20noted%20tha t%20the%20most,responsibility%20for%20accounting%20for%20and %20mitigating%20these%20incidents.


However, it should be noted that the most common threat today—responsible for roughly 150 to 200 subsea cable faults (https://csis-website-prod.s3.amazonaws.com/s3fs-public/publication/210309_Hillman_Subsea_Network_1.pdf?1c7RFgLM3w3apMi0eAPl2rPm qrNNzvwJ)every year—is accidental physical damage from commercial fishing and shipping, or even from underwater earthquakes. Industry actors have the prime responsibility for accounting for and mitigating these incidents.

Asturias56
24th Oct 2022, 16:46
"responsible for roughly 150 to 200 subsea cable faults (https://csis-website-prod.s3.amazonaws.com/s3fs-public/publication/210309_Hillman_Subsea_Network_1.pdf?1c7RFgLM3w3apMi0eAPl2rPm qrNNzvwJ)every year"

Thanks - and none of them make the headlines of course

Lonewolf_50
25th Oct 2022, 00:21
"responsible for roughly 150 to 200 subsea cable faults (https://csis-website-prod.s3.amazonaws.com/s3fs-public/publication/210309_Hillman_Subsea_Network_1.pdf?1c7RFgLM3w3apMi0eAPl2rPm qrNNzvwJ)every year"

Thanks - and none of them make the headlines of course It's obviously a conspiracy, shall I order you some tin foil for a hat?
I hear that with supply chain problems it may be a few months before any of it is available.

Asturias56
25th Oct 2022, 08:15
It's not me who sees conspiracies everywhere.................. but it suits lazy journo's