C-17 Northolt delivering the Queen.

[NutLoose]

Flap shroud missing?


https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1300x956/image_7805ca9e8f4522fe3797ad31d35a953be60842e9.png

[Scamp]

Wasn`t in place on departure from Edinburgh ........ going out on a limb but i suspect rather than use the spare in place that ZZ177 would fly with an ADF in place for RTB MOB?

[Cubbie]

It Looked like the C17 was parked on the apron with all the engine reverser doors open, is this standard practice, or a ceremonial reason , or to stop the blades clattering noisily around in the wind? Not seen or noticed that done before.
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/620x417/51de26d5260e49db88a071a4fd2efebd_b42283064be2289b2e7fdbd3691 1d09e20296fa7.jpg

[Fitter2]

Retired junior ranks have noted (with their typical sense of humour) that ZZ177, when inverted, spells LLIZZ. I'm sure this wasn't deliberate...

[DaveReidUK]

Retired junior ranks have noted (with their typical sense of humour) that ZZ177, when inverted, spells LLIZZ. I'm sure this wasn't deliberate...

It's pure serendipity that 30+ years ago, when McDonnell Douglas won the C-X competition, the DoD skipped the next available designation (C-16) and the winner became the C-17 - hence those eventually bought for the RAF didn't end up being serialled ZZ161 onwards.

Either that, or the Queen had more influence than we realise. :O

[RAF_Techie101]

It Looked like the C17 was parked on the apron with all the engine reverser doors open, is this standard practice, or a ceremonial reason , or to stop the blades clattering noisily around in the wind? Not seen or noticed that done before.
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/620x417/51de26d5260e49db88a071a4fd2efebd_b42283064be2289b2e7fdbd3691 1d09e20296fa7.jpg

Prevents airflow through the engine and the fanblades rattling, as you describe. It's also handy if the engine is spinning backwards due to a tailwind, as you can start it in the deployed position and operate it through the aircraft's hydraulics independent of the engine state.

[Bksmithca]

It's pure serendipity that 30+ years ago, when McDonnell Douglas won the C-X competition, the DoD skipped the next available designation (C-16) and the winner became the C-17 - hence those eventually bought for the RAF didn't end up being serialled ZZ161 onwards.

Either that, or the Queen had more influence than we realise. :O
Dave is it possible that C16 was skipped because the F16 existed so it would have had two active aircraft with a 16 designation?

[megan]

The C-16 designation was assigned to the Cessna 208 Caravan intended for use by the Army for missions against leftist forces in El Salvador and Nicaragua during the mid-1980s. In fact, the aircraft were apparently not accepted for service, but the type now designated the U-27A by the Department of Defense.

[DaveReidUK]

The C-16 designation was assigned to the Cessna 208 Caravan intended for use by the Army for missions against leftist forces in El Salvador and Nicaragua during the mid-1980s. In fact, the aircraft were apparently not accepted for service, but the type now designated the U-27A by the Department of Defense.

C-16 was also reserved, but not used, for the DHC-6 Twin Otter, which ended up as the UV-18A.

[Hueymeister]

They fall off quite regularly…

[DaveReidUK]

Dave is it possible that C16 was skipped because the F16 existed so it would have had two active aircraft with a 16 designation?

I wouldn't have thought so - there are other similar examples that don't seem to cause any problem: C-18/F-18, UC-35/F-35, etc.

[Paying Guest]

During the JSF competition the 2 competing demonstrators were designated X32 (Boeing) and X35 (LM consortium). Had Boeing won the production aircraft would have been the F32.