Auckland to New York Qantas

[Ollie Onion]

As part of the financial results today it was announced a new route Auckland to New York on the 787 commencing in 2023. It also said the flights are timed to connect to Australian desinations. Will this go Auckland direct to NYC like Air NZ or are they talking NZ to OZ to connect to an international service?

[dr dre]

Not exactly earth shattering, they were flying AKL-LAX years ago.

Must be when the next slate of 78s are due to arrive.

[unobtanium]

As part of the financial results today it was announced a new route Auckland to New York on the 787 commencing in 2023. It also said the flights are timed to connect to Australian desinations. Will this go Auckland direct to NYC like Air NZ or are they talking NZ to OZ to connect to an international service?

this is just another scheme to use non australian based staff, these flight's will be crewed by cheaper more compliant nz based flight attendant's. no crew rest needed

[blubak]

Not exactly earth shattering, they were flying AKL-LAX years ago.

Must be when the next slate of 78s are due to arrive.
Yeh,he said 3 new 78's are coming next year.
I would be using Air NZ if i was travelling,thats for sure.

[Ollie Onion]

If I'm going via Aukland to the States it's with ANZ, a far superior product.


Likewise, always good to have fallback options though.

[havick]

Why would anyone (at least from Australia) want to go via Auckland in the first place?

[cLeArIcE]

Why would anyone want to travel on QF over almost any other carrier if you didn't have to. If you are going via AKL, you'd want to be travelling air NZ.

[On eyre]

Why would anyone (at least from Australia) want to go via Auckland in the first place?

Well just think about it for a minute assuming you are going to New York.
I would much rather transit through AKL than LAX any day thanks.

[drshmoo]

Well just think about it for a minute assuming you are going to New York.
I would much rather transit through AKL than LAX any day thanks.

100% AKL transfer is way better than LAX.

QF are forced to have a crack at this because they dilly dallied with their A350 Sunrise clickbait propaganda. If they got their A350s when they were supposed to, the travelling Australian public would be bypassing NZ all together en route the NYC.

AirNz are a good product (better is debatable) and AKL is much better than JFK. QF had to react on that route.

[tamaki1]

I imagine the route has been planned via AKL due to range issues when flying westbound against the prevailing winds. Northbound is not so much of an issue provided holding times are reasonable at JFK.

[Wonderworld]

Give me the QF J cabin anyday over the current NZ hideous J config.

[SOPS]

Give me the QF J cabin anyday over the current NZ hideous J config.

When I read your post last night, I had a look at the ANZ J cabin layout. It’s very strange indeed!!

[PoppaJo]

Foran is dumping all the Kiwi ‘innovations’ in bizarre product design and is going with the more conventional German options starting in a few years.

[AerialPerspective]

You should try it some time, it's not behd.

When QF101/100 used to operate to LAX it was always full, often oversold every night. It was a very popular option. Albeit it was the same aeroplane all the way through from MEL but for MEL-LAX traffic it cut out the side-show at SYD and usual inevitable aircraft change and was two reasonable sized sectors and not one short one then 14-15 hours.

[sunnySA]

Seems to be an option worth considering, especially if there are reasonable connections to a range of Australian and New Zealand cities or easy and reasonable stop-over arrangements. I recall that ANZ briefly operated AKL-SYD-LAX.

[onezeroonethree]

this is just another scheme to use non australian based staff, these flight's will be crewed by cheaper more compliant nz based flight attendant's. no crew rest needed

Probably some truth to this however I’d imagine the savings using NZ CC would be minimal in the grand scheme of things. All of the b789s have CC rest facilities. No sleeping on seat.

[Sparrows.]

Probably some truth to this however I’d imagine the savings using NZ CC would be minimal in the grand scheme of things. All of the b789s have CC rest facilities. No sleeping on seat.


inb4 Qantas sell the crew rest bunks to passengers and then make the crew sleep over lower yielding economy seats

[TBM-Legend]

Thank goodness we have the peanut gallery to advise QF and others how to run the airline!

[C441]

When QF101/100 used to operate to LAX it was always full, often oversold every night. It was a very popular option. Albeit it was the same aeroplane all the way through from MEL but for MEL-LAX traffic it cut out the side-show at SYD and usual inevitable aircraft change and was two reasonable sized sectors and not one short one then 14-15 hours.
The operation failed when the 747 AKL-LAX was replaced with a 330 which carried on to JFK. The high value freight which was carried on the 747 from LAX-JFK now went on a Polar or Atlas aircraft meaning the 747 freight capacity was no longer required. As the Qantas 330 product was no match for the ANZ 777 from AKL-LAX, the loads collapsed and the route was canned.

The 'genius' of silo-ing departments…...:rolleyes:

[unobtanium]

Probably some truth to this however I’d imagine the savings using NZ CC would be minimal in the grand scheme of things. All of the b789s have CC rest facilities. No sleeping on seat.

quantas will spend a dollar to save a cent, the costs involved in hiring nz crew flying and housing them in syd for training, sending managers over to 'setup and oversee' operations, all to shaft the australian crew. good jolly's for the execs though, need to visit there troop's overseas often for photo op's and yammer post's

[morno]

quantas will spend a dollar to save a cent, the costs involved in hiring nz crew flying and housing them in syd for training, sending managers over to 'setup and oversee' operations, all to shaft the australian crew. good jolly's for the execs though, need to visit there troop's overseas often for photo op's and yammer post's

Who the **** are quantas?

[Australopithecus]

There’s no “I” in team, and clearly there’s no you in Qantas.

[das Uber Soldat]

Who the **** are quantas?
Seriously?

Its the biggest and best airline in the country, maybe the whole world. You should know that.

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[Qanchor]

Day one of line training, "Sonny, there's no you in Qantas"