Unable to see URL's

[WB627]

Is it just me or is anyone else having problems seeing posted URL's?

[Saab Dastard]

Examples, please?

SD

[WB627]

Examples, please?

SD

Thanks SD

Its not all URL's but sometimes I can't even see the URL's I've posted, unless I go into edit mode!!!

Try these....

https://www.pprune.org/11283479-post3828.html

https://www.pprune.org/11283495-post3829.html

Oddly, I can see these on my phone :confused:


I think it could be me, my router has been playing up for a while and rang my ISP today and they are despatching me a new one :)

[Saab Dastard]

I second the thought that it's you - I've no problem with either of the posts with YT links you provided

[nonsense]

Is it just me or is anyone else having problems seeing posted URL's?
You are not alone. This has been happening for many months.

Win7, Firefox 103.0.2 (32 bit)

Example:
https://www.pprune.org/jet-blast/644459-darwin-awards-2022-a-13.html#post11283164


https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/646x627/untitled_fd21f1712509122c7b95349fa2027d3b60fbef51.png

[Senior Pilot]

You are not alone. This has been happening for many months.

Win7, Firefox 103.0.2 (32 bit)

Example:
https://www.pprune.org/jet-blast/644459-darwin-awards-2022-a-13.html#post11283164


https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/646x627/untitled_fd21f1712509122c7b95349fa2027d3b60fbef51.png

Nutty, no issues with that URL with my access, on iPad and on MB Pro 🤔. Source details (which we can access) shows nothing untoward either.

Twitter links are, however, often unstable and/or slow to load when you post them across the site.

[Beamr]

Allegedly, could be any boat, anywhere.
Your twitter links are still invisible.
Must be an issue with your device, I can see the links perfectly (and have seen all the time).

[Tartiflette Fan]

Must be an issue with your device, I can see the links perfectly (and have seen all the time).

Not just his: I don't see them on my PC either.

[TWT]

I don't see Twitter links if I use Firefox for this thread.

But I do see Twitter links when I use Microsoft Edge.

( using W10 laptop )

[Beamr]

Not just his: I don't see them on my PC either.

I don't see Twitter links if I use Firefox for this thread.

But I do see Twitter links when I use Microsoft Edge.

( using W10 laptop )

hmm... I am using Chrome and works like a charm (Win10 laptop).

[Sepp]

re: links - I can see them on my PC (using Firefox) and my Android phone (Chrome). I can't see them (unless quoted) on either of my iPads (Firefox).

[Tartiflette Fan]

Whatever device is being used, this is a problem that has suddenly cropped up for some users in the last few days.

[Ninthace]

Must be an issue with your device, I can see the links perfectly (and have seen all the time).
I cannot see them in Chrome or Firefox. I used to be able to and nothing has changed my end as far as I know and I am not the only one with the problem. They are visible in Safari on an iPad.

[Geriaviator]

Re links: no problems on PC with W10 and Duckduckgo browser. Suggest you try clearing memory and cookies etc.

[jimjim1]

Neither work for me as linked above, single posts. (uBlock Origin on or Off)
They both work in the thread. (with uBlock Origin enabled as usual).

I have long mentioned url weirdnesses on pprune; not complained, these are not inconvenient for me. I only mention it in case anyone wants to fix it.

I tried turning off uBlock Origin - no difference. I gathered some data which is in the attached pdf.

[jimjim1]

Just to add -

"Its not all URL's but sometimes I can't even see the URL's I've posted, unless I go into edit mode!!!"

I have been in the habit of replying to my own posts to get URLs to work. They always seemed to work in replies. I have also replied to others posts for the same reason, without adding comment to the discussion.

I do not see it as much now although I don't think I post so often. For a while I always checked URLs I posted to see if they worked and replied right away if they didn't. They always worked in the replies. I noticed that they quite often would start to work after a while and I would delete the replies I had made earlier.

If anyone wants to look, maybe worth checking my old posts in this section?

It is not worrying me, it is a tiny problem and I have a workaround. Press reply and link from there, then dump the reply.

[Senior Pilot]

IBJoel and IBMyke , please have Tech investigate these reports: thanks.

[johngreen]

Just to add that I have found similar problems - using opera on Win7...

[Ninthace]

Re links: no problems on PC with W10 and Duckduckgo browser. Suggest you try clearing memory and cookies etc.
My PC automatically cleans up cookies etc whenever I close my browser but I still have the issue. Running Win 10. Problem is the same with Firefox, Chrome and DuckDuck, CCleaner browser does not have the issue though.
One possible clue: the accept cookies screen flashes up and disappears before you can accept cookies in Firefox and Chrome but in CCleaner Browser the Cookies window stays up to accept cookies. Likewise, when running the Safari browser there is not an issue and the accept cookies window stays up.

[WB627]

If it helps, I am using Google Chrome, I also have Microsoft Edge installed and that has the same problem with invisible urls. As noted by others, I can see them when I quote the post and if they are mine that I can't see, I can use edit to reveal them. My phone is Android and I can see all the urls I can't see on the PC.

Russian hackers?? Nutty have you been trolling Putin again?

[MikeSnow]

Sweet

https://twitter.com/temafey/status/1563629832772243458 (https://twitter.com/hashtag/Ukrainian?src=hashtag_click)

These Twitter URLs behave stranger and stranger by the day. This particular one sent me to https://twitter.com/hashtag/Ukrainian?src=hashtag_click instead of the displayed URL.

[tdracer]

I started having issues with invisible links a couple weeks ago. Windows 11 with Edge (I had to buy a new computer recently when my old XP unit died - I wish Microsoft would stop "improving" things - this old dog doesn't want to have to learn new tricks).
It is annoying - I can see the links if I click 'quote', but the link then isn't clickable - I have to copy and paste into a new window.

[nonsense]

I started having issues with invisible links a couple weeks ago. Windows 11 with Edge (I had to buy a new computer recently when my old XP unit died - I wish Microsoft would stop "improving" things - this old dog doesn't want to have to learn new tricks).
It is annoying - I can see the links if I click 'quote', but the link then isn't clickable - I have to copy and paste into a new window.


I also use "quote" to see the missing text, but because of the way the PPRUNE version of phpBB3 handles links, if there is text associated with the url, I cannot see the url, only the text. In the version we use in a much smaller board that I help manage, I would see the codes and the url too, something like this:
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/487x84/untitled_a72df25f9bb06ef48707fa7aa427bd630713934c.gif
(I had to use an image, because another feature not present here is disabling BBCode to display what is actaully typed, not what it tells the system to display)

[MarcK]

One problem is that some URLs are not url-quoted. For instance: https://twitter.com/WhiteHouse/status/1562916200866267138?cxt=HHwWhICy5aCAzLArAAAA I guess that's because users don't use the link button.

[Jhieminga]

The software is sometimes a bit too smart. Just copying a link into a post automatically (should) produce URL tags which (behind the scenes) work as nonsense posted above. You don't have to use the link button for that to happen. There are instances though where the software somehow doesn't automatically recognise the link, or treats it differently. That's when things get confusing.

This is similar to the confusion arising when posting Flickr embed codes. As there are two links hiding in that bit of code, it will produce two preview boxes with your image in them. Something similar happens with Youtube links (sometimes). If you ask me, I could use a 'disable automatic link parsing' option....

[Ninthace]

My PC automatically cleans up cookies etc whenever I close my browser but I still have the issue. Running Win 10. Problem is the same with Firefox, Chrome and DuckDuck, CCleaner browser does not have the issue though.
One possible clue: the accept cookies screen flashes up and disappears before you can accept cookies in Firefox and Chrome but in CCleaner Browser the Cookies window stays up to accept cookies. Likewise, when running the Safari browser there is not an issue and the accept cookies window stays up.
The issue is now popping up in Cachecleaner Briwser too. Nutlooses latest post, the URLs had disappeared. URLs for the same post post are also invisibile in Safari on an iPad.

[FlightDetent]

Good morning everyone.

I kindly suggest to sort out the Twitter link situation by PPRuNe keeping(*) both the link and the embedded preview frame - which is not the case now. Although YouTube links are handled exactly that way already.

CASE:
Plain direct links Twitter posted by users are transformed into previews for enhanced viewing and possbily also for a few technical and commercial reasons. It is a nice feature afterall, also available on many other websites.

Post #8861 PPRuNe Forums - View Single Post - Is Ukraine about to have a war? (https://www.pprune.org/11287839-post8661.html)

The way it is intended to display:

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/480x2000/wechat_image_20220831151808_f9f506d27bb9132b5fee79d62ad720aa 9bafdb0e.jpg


And here is what happens to it for multiple varied reasons:
i) beyond PPRuNE control and technical reach
ii) beyond reader's understanding or IT prowess

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/640x1299/wechat_image_20220831152634_c0a0a5e3d9aea88a3f6943ef184e3c61 ea9b7ada.jpg


The marked red space is where two Twitter links went missing.

BTW: when quoting an "emptied" post, the links are transferred to the editor. Luckily we even have two syntax examples here:

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1111x335/152948_e8f1adf7edd26e1068c59c49883e1248e918928a.png

At the same time, when viewing the empty space the way it is rendered, there is no selectable content delivered by the browser.

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/701x348/153034_bd979041f13e11971c90a483835e49f096bde749.png

[FlightDetent]

SUGGESTION:

Can we handle this same as the YouTube links? Where a preview is provided but the original link is also preserved?

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/480x601/wechat_image_20220831153921_8828304cb3f104373f7c2733ac2cc398 1a2ad21d.jpg

The magic of this solution, which is missing in the way Twitter links are handled, is that if the preview panel does not load the user retains the possiblity to follow the linked source.


https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/480x541/0220831153921_0dc21679e5514d59c37095c045cab0d6de44c1a1.jpg

Keeping the link in addition to the preview element would be a great help.

[FlightDetent]

The issue is now popping up in Cachecleaner Briwser too. Nutlooses latest post, the URLs had disappeared. URLs for the same post post are also invisibile in Safari on an iPad. Twitter links and preview element - PPRuNe Forums (https://www.pprune.org/pprune-problems-queries/648635-twitter-links-preview-element.html#post11288148) what do you think?

[Beamr]

This might start mumurings in Russia, recruiting conscripts from Moscow and St Petersberg.

the links are getting weirder by the day. Now by clicking the link you provided just gives me the message "Gone".

I backtracked the link and believe I found what you linked, how does this open to others?

https://twitter.com/LvivJournal/status/1564896255804940288

EDIT: or, how about linking as plain text for others to copy/paste? twitter.com/LvivJournal/status/1564896255804940288

[NutLoose]

Had the same problem last night it would not link to pages the whole site has problems, I tried a quote yesterday and got this, have removed the ['s so you can see it

QUOTE][QUOTE[/QUOTE[/QUOTE

I was told by using the chain image above you could add sites, tried that as well to no avail, BTW both my and your identical quote links work here.

[Jhieminga]

And here is what happens to it for multiple varied reasons:
i) beyond PPRuNE control and technical reach
ii) beyond reader's understanding or IT prowess

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/640x1299/wechat_image_20220831152634_c0a0a5e3d9aea88a3f6943ef184e3c61 ea9b7ada.jpg



Not a solution, but I have noticed that when the details about the poster (in this case NutLoose) are expanded as shown in the screenshot above, this means that the page has not finished loading for some reason. I often see this happening on my mobile, not on my laptop. The delay that is slowing down page loading could be related to the forum software looking up needed details on those Twitter links. Wait a bit longer or reload and (hopefully) they should show up. That is what happens on my phone....

[FlightDetent]

Not a solution, but I have noticed that when the details about the poster (in this case NutLoose) are expanded as shown in the screenshot above, this means that the page has not finished loading for some reason. I often see this happening on my mobile, not on my laptop. The delay that is slowing down page loading could be related to the forum software looking up needed details on those Twitter links. Wait a bit longer or reload and (hopefully) they should show up. That is what happens on my phone....That observation is shared. Loading the web on a mobile device keeps the expanded user data in view until it is all correctly received.

However, that specific behaviour is independent of the Twitter preview element in my case. That issue is easily understood becasue Twitter is blocked by the ISP altogether. VPN on = previews show / VPN off = all Twitter links missing. Repeated and replicated in a controlled manner. Same for YouTube and that is how I got the screens for the other post.

The expanded user data seems to depend on the quality and stability of the connection to PPRuNe servers, which is often dubious. Sometimes I get stuck with it but not on every occasion. Use of VPN can either improve it or cause it, depends on the day.

[MarcK]

The problem is on PpRune's end. They are wrapping the URL in a redirect, but don't expand the redirect correctly when clicked;https://www.dialog.ua/blogs/257991_1661967729
This started out as h t tp s: //www.pprune.org/redirect-to/?redirect=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.dialog.ua%2Fblogs%2F257991_16619 67729, but the redirect didn't work properly.

[Saab Dastard]

Marck,

Thanks, I pointed this exact problem out to IB Tech back in June, with a workaround for moderators: if you Edit a post with a broken link and save it without changing anything, it fixes the links. A standard user can probably do that to their own posts but I've not tried.

SD

[spekesoftly]

.......... A standard user can probably do that to their own posts but I've not tried.

SD

It worked for me thanks SD

Edit: But it didn't last for long. After a few hours the link had disappeared again.

[NutLoose]

Even when posting and trying to use the chain link (Ctrl K) it does not work, I have started to add the link that some including myself cannot always see and also in quotations that the MODS do not like as they have to open the links, that way hopefully as I have posted both they can see the content, even though the rest of us can't, this PC is on windows 10 and Firefox, or Microdross Edge and cannot see them other PC on 11 and firefox can, as can my Ipad....

[Tartiflette Fan]

There are currently many complaints about mangled and non-functional links on the Military Aviation forum about unfollowable links/videos> I would like to add to that the updating of posts when you log on to the site. I am using a pc with brave browser and when I log on, the last post as listed on the "face page " may be completely outdated.

[IBJoel]

Are you accepting all cookies from PPRuNe? If you are, but still experiencing the problem, could you link me to a post that contains a link experiencing the issue? All external links I've clicked on in this thread have functioned correctly.

[MechEngr]

Are you accepting all cookies from PPRuNe? If you are, but still experiencing the problem, could you link me to a post that contains a link experiencing the issue? All external links I've clicked on in this thread have functioned correctly.

I use NoScript, with pprune.org the only one running scripts. This change in behavior is new; I presume something has changed - does it use a cookie provider or other script?

[IBJoel]

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/mark-levin-fbi-negligent-docs-trump_n_631032c9e4b0da54bae5ac66

Test post

[IBJoel]

I use NoScript, with pprune.org the only one running scripts. This change in behavior is new; I presume something has changed - does it use a cookie provider or other script?
I don't know what we run. We did switch our cookie banner for GDPR/CCPA reasons recently, however.

[Saab Dastard]

The flaky URL problem has been going on for a couple months at least.

[Airbanda]

Similar issue here. Links go to a page with a standard message: GoneThe requested resource is no longer available on this server and there is no forwarding address. Please remove all references to this resource.

Presumably an issue with forwarding.

[MechEngr]

The flaky URL problem has been going on for a couple months at least.
Invisible URLs and in-line content have been going for months; the broken links is new.

[FlightDetent]

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/mark-levin-fbi-negligent-docs-trump_n_631032c9e4b0da54bae5ac66

Test postall good over here.

[MechEngr]

all good over here.

That one doesn't have the redirect prefix in the URL - oh, it looks like the automatic prefix of "redirect" has been removed.

[Ninthace]

Pprune redirects in JetBlast now throwing up a 410 Gone message instead of opening the link.

[Senior Pilot]

Pprune redirects in JetBlast now throwing up a 410 Gone message instead of opening the link.

IB were notified yesterday that the problem has resurfaced, but it’s the weekend and I can’t get regular updates 🙊

[longer ron]

I posted a youtube video clip on the 1940's weekend thread (from my own youtube channel)
I now cannot see it - and I cannot see many of the recently posted yt clips either.

[Senior Pilot]

I posted a youtube video clip on the 1940's weekend thread (from my own youtube channel)
I now cannot see it - and I cannot see many of the recently posted yt clips either.

No issues at all with your YouTube appearing in your post for me, but obviously there must be something in the water for this to be a continuing problem. Not that I have had a reply to my report made more than a fortnight ago.

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/2000x1000/3e992d10_128f_4f87_be9a_0cffdda43310_125f3078f2861e7b33b586f 8dfeefed6e214e004.jpeg

[longer ron]

Thanks for the reply SP - dunno what is going on - I am on various forums and pprune is the only one I am having URL problems with.

regards LR

[India Four Two]

I'm still having problems with missing links, once even in my own post!

A quick way to find the missing text is to click on the Quote box at the bottom right.

[Senior Pilot]

Again, an email trail to IB requesting a resolution to this problem. One suggestion relates to One Trust, and whether we (as PPRuNe Users) are accepting all Cookies.

I’ll let you know when I know 👍

[IBJoel]

OK, so to ensure this problem is on our end and not yours, we need the following from EVERY person who reports this:

Have you accepted site cookies?
Do you clear cookies upon closing your browser?
If you clear site data or go into incognito/private browsing, do links and embeds appear then?
If not, what kind of device are you using, desktop/laptop or mobile?
What browser are you using and are your running any content blockers on it?
If you are on a mobile device, are you using the desktop/full site skin or the mobile skin?

[Jhieminga]

I don't know if it helps, but for me everything works fine and that is on MacOS 13.0.1 on a MacBook Pro, Firefox 106.0.5 and I do use content blockers and refuse most of the cookies.

[Asturias56]

Its seems to have happened relatively recently - it affects a lot more posts now

Looks liek there was an "upgrade" to the site software - its not critical but its bloody irritating

[Senior Pilot]

Its seems to have happened relatively recently - it affects a lot more posts now

Looks liek there was an "upgrade" to the site software - its not critical but its bloody irritating

I am only getting this on my iPad, which recently had a major iOS update; I emailed this to IB on Friday their time. Is anyone with the latest url problem also on an iPad with iOS 16.1?

[tubby linton]

It doesn’t work on my legacy ipad which runs 15.7.1 when viewing through safari or on my current ipad in 16.1.1. The links are viewable in Chrome on the ipad.

[Asturias56]

I'm running W10 on a desktop and it's variable - some links appear some don't

[India Four Two]

I have been testing using this post: https://www.pprune.org/aviation-history-nostalgia/649755-v-bomber-emergency-escape-trials.html#post11328237

I have a 2021 16" MacBook Pro (M1) running Ventura 13.0. My primary browser is Safari 16.1

I cannot see the video URL, even after I delete all PPRuNe cookies and login again.

My privacy settings look like this:

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1520x896/screenshot_2022_11_13_at_15_27_34_cf2f966bcfbcf9f1470464adc1 859d50060eb732.png
After unchecking "Hide IP address", and doing a page update, I see this:

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/2000x837/screenshot_2022_11_13_at_15_28_11_b008e792f9432ebcd5e21baba7 544488138b66e3.png



If I then update the page again, it reverts to its original state, with no video displayed!

I see similar behaviour when browsing using Firefox 106.0.4 and no amount of fiddling with the Privacy settings causes the video to be displayed.

PS This post was also due to SP's request on the V Bomber Escape thread.

[washoutt]

I have also reported the impossibility to view video's, nor the url. Going to the button "Go Advanced and then going to the post in question does indeed show the video, but doing that is tedious. Photo'd, however are visible without problems. I have Firefox, but Chrome also does not show the video's or url. Very annoying!
This is since a few months, I used to have no problems at all with video's. So what or who has changed this winning team?

[Krystal n chips]

SP....following your request on the V Bomber Escape thread, I'm another who can't see any YT links...but they have randomly appeared only to disappear again

[Tim00]

I don't know if it helps, but for me everything works fine and that is on MacOS 13.0.1 on a MacBook Pro, Firefox 106.0.5 and I do use content blockers and refuse most of the cookies.

It doesn't for me, MacOS 13.0.1, Intel Macbook Pro, Firefox 106.0.5. I have Adblock Plus and Facebook Container extensions.

[tubby linton]

The problem may be with youtube. I just tried to open a youtube clip that was embedded in a tweet and it refused to open and directed me to the youtube app.

[Senior Pilot]

I am now able to view all the YouTube links which were not visible on my iPad; has anyone else found the links now working or do we still have a problem on certain browsers or platforms?

[longer ron]

I could see the links for a while but they have disappeared again !

[tubby linton]

https://www.pprune.org/accidents-close-calls/650003-one-most-impressive-crash-landings-history.html#post11336907
(78) Crash Landing of a Piper Navajo at King's Lynn - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0erWd2euSMk)

Prop malfunction with a history of previous failures. Reminds me of a guy I knew that flew MU-2's. He was flying one day and threw a blade. The drag cause by the damage meant that he couldn't maintain altitude and he barely made it to an air force base. Despite the fault.....no AD from the FAA. Then it happened again a few years later and killed a state governor when the pilots couldn't make it to an airport. FAA AD followed.
Punkalouver all I can see is a large white space above your text, is there meant to be a photo there?

[Andrewgr2]

Punkalouver all I can see is a large white space above your text, is there meant to be a photo there?
I see the link to a YouTube video about the incident.

[tubby linton]

I see just a large white space. On other posts I have seen a grey box saying that the clip will not play.

[tubby linton]

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/2000x1504/4d270ff0_9049_43c0_b678_1c6cb2126ffc_4d840ea81dd9ffc0089e7d6 8b8581400382fae27.png
Blank post.
There is a large white space on the first post about the worst crash.I am told that the space should be a link to a youtube clip.I get the same using Chrome rather than Safari.

[Bergerie1]

Try this link:-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0erWd2euSMk

[tubby linton]

Nothing there either, but when I quote your post I can see the text link. I have posted about this in the Pprune problems section. I also tried using Chrome but with the same result.

[Bergerie1]

Tubby, that's strange, because I use Chrome too with no problems. It be them gremlins that's what it be!!

[spekesoftly]

Nothing there either, but when I quote your post I can see the text link. I have posted about this in the Pprune problems section. I also tried using Chrome but with the same result.

Exactly the same problem for me using Firefox. Only if I click on "Go Advanced" and then scroll to Bergerie's post #72, am I able to see and play the video.

[jimjim1]

Simple version -

I could not see youtube links, big space instead.
Close pprune, delete pprune cookies.
Restart pprune
Log in, ACCEPT all cookies. - in some order?
Now it works fine

The more complex reality -
I run a blocker. I think I turned it off and did as above. Then restored blocker. I think blocker blocks cookies dialog.

Weird thing is that it now works in incognito mode too (this starts clean, with NO cookies, every time). Maybe pprune is setting a flag on server when you accept cookies and that is recognised when you login. OR maybe Chrome Incognito mode really can see normal mode cookies!!! Or something.

Hope this might help.

[tubby linton]

I would rather go without the ads and ad tracking.Safari deletes cookies every time you leave the site I believe. In another topic one of the site engineers said they had done a lot of work that had some unexplained timescale. The site owner needs to prioritise the user rather than themselves otherwise there will be no site.

[Senior Pilot]

Please report url/YouTube link problems here (https://www.pprune.org/pprune-problems-queries/651060-post-media-links-youtube-facebook-etc-errors-master-thread.html) with more detail to assist IB to troubleshoot this problem: thanks 👍