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SimoFly
13th Aug 2022, 06:36
Hi All,

After Brexit everything is becoming so confusing for me and I cannot find the information I need so I will ask in this forum.
I have a UK CAA licence could I revalidate my IR and MEP with an examiner holding an EASA examiner licence? is this still possible? If yes until when can I do the revalidation in Europe? If not since when EASA examiners are not approved?

Many thanks in advance

portsharbourflyer
13th Aug 2022, 08:24
31st December 2022 is when UK CAA recognition of EASA ends.

Chauffeurr
14th Aug 2022, 22:59
I would also like to know if a UK License holder can have their current rating revalidated by an EASA examiner before 31st December 2022? Is this possible or do they need to send a pile of paperwork to the UK CAA first?

I really hope someone can can answer this.

Thank you,
Chauffeurr

Arrow Flyer
15th Aug 2022, 06:02
They can, but there are restrictions. Copied from the archived CAA Brexit micro site here (https://webarchive.nationalarchives.gov.uk/ukgwa/20210601103939/https://info.caa.co.uk/uk-eu-transition/flight-examiners/)..

EASA Part-FCL/BFCL/SFCL Examiners who hold an examiner certificate issued by an EASA member state will be able to continue to undertake Skill Tests, Proficiency Checks and/or Assessments of Competence, for the period of its validity up to a maximum of two years.

The examiner certificate must have been issued prior to 31 December 2020 and test notification requirement have been met. We will be unable to accept retrospective test notification.

gipsymagpie
15th Aug 2022, 20:25
Hi All,

After Brexit everything is becoming so confusing for me and I cannot find the information I need so I will ask in this forum.
I have a UK CAA licence could I revalidate my IR and MEP with an examiner holding an EASA examiner licence? is this still possible? If yes until when can I do the revalidation in Europe? If not since when EASA examiners are not approved?

Many thanks in advance
EASA examiners can continue to do UK checks outside the UK in the future if they have an FCL.1000c approval from the UK CAA. We do the same in reverse now

mapleworth
17th Aug 2022, 18:24
I hold a DGAC-issued EASA PPL (have never held any CAA licence). Are there any EASA-approved instructors that I could do my bi-annual flight with in the UK next year? Any idea how I can find them (in Kent if possible)?

I understand that my EASA licence will not be valid to fly any G-reg aircraft next year, and that I will have to jump through the CAA hoops and obtain a CAA licence (what an unnecessary PITA!). In that case, presumably a single bi-annual flight could be used to revalidate the two licences?. OTOH, Would there be any chance of finding a CAA-approved EASA instructor in France?

Any ideas would be most appreciated.

John

Fl1ingfrog
17th Aug 2022, 19:03
bi-annual flight

Bi-annual means twice per year! The correct term is biennial which means taking place every other year.

Licenses and certificates didn't instantly come to an end at midnight on the 31st December 2020; They are allowed to naturally expire which is why some EASA certificates will expire on the 31st December 2022. Remember, only those EU examiners who registered and undertook the UK CAA online course before 1st January 2021 is valid to undertake UK examinations and update certificates of experience.

Many UK schools retained EASA validity and will therefore have EASA examiners on board.

mapleworth
17th Aug 2022, 19:23
Thanks for the speedy reply. What do you mean by "retained EASA validity"? I thought that the CAA would not recognize EASA certificates and licences after 1st Jan 2030. I have so far contacted Headcorn and apparently ALL the instructors there only have their CAA issued licences.

Arrow Flyer
17th Aug 2022, 19:29
mapleworth - I'm not aware of any FIs in Kent, though I'm sure they exist. I'm an EASA Instructor/Examiner in Cambridge & Duxford if you don't have any luck.

Once you've obtained your UK licence a single flight should be sufficient to meet the SEP training hour requirement as long as the instructor holds both UK and EASA privileges.

Please drop me a message if I can be of assistance..

mapleworth
17th Aug 2022, 20:38
mapleworth - I'm not aware of any FIs in Kent, though I'm sure they exist. I'm an EASA Instructor/Examiner in Cambridge & Duxford if you don't have any luck.

Once you've obtained your UK licence a single flight should be sufficient to meet the SEP training hour requirement as long as the instructor holds both UK and EASA privileges.

Please drop me a message if I can be of assistance..

Thank you so much. I would, of course, prefer in Knt, but I may well take you up on that offer nearer the date!

Cheers

John.

Fl1ingfrog
17th Aug 2022, 20:43
What do you mean by "retained EASA validity"?

A number of UK flight schools recognised that there were many who for varied reasons would continue to want an EASA licence particularly for the CPL/IR. So, many schools retained EASA validity by registering with another EU country but otherwise remain in the UK.

mapleworth
18th Aug 2022, 08:28
...and, I suppose that their instructors obtained a non-UK-issued EASA licence...

Thanks,

John

Arrow Flyer
18th Aug 2022, 08:34
Yes, or they got an FCL.900 approval.

Chauffeurr
18th Aug 2022, 09:33
Thanks for the above.

Are you able to complete an LPC with an EASA examiner on an EASA aircraft if you are current on type? In my situation there are no G Reg aircraft of the type I fly nor UK examiners current on type.

Any help would be appreciated.

Arrow Flyer
18th Aug 2022, 09:48
If their EASA Examiner authorisation was issued prior to 31st December 2020, and has not been revalidated, renewed or varied since, then they can complete your LPC up to 31st December 2022.

If your rating is still valid then it's a revalidation by proficiency check, the above still applies.

Chauffeurr
18th Aug 2022, 09:55
Thanks for the quick reply Arrow Flyer!

So if the Examiner certificate was issued prior to 31st December 2020 but expired for a few months after that date but is now current again then the examiner cannot perform the LPC?

Arrow Flyer
18th Aug 2022, 10:02
Correct, their Examiner certificate expired so they cannot conduct your LPC.

What aircraft is it? Perhaps somebody here can assist, or knows somebody else who can.

Chauffeurr
18th Aug 2022, 10:26
OK that's understood.

It's a Citation C510, I have access to an EASA aircraft to do the LPC but I'm really struggling to find an examiner that's current so any help would be appreciated.