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Union Jack
2nd Jun 2022, 08:25
HM The Queen's Birthday Honours List for the Armed Forces:

https://www.forces.net/platinum-jubilee/queens-birthday-honours-101-members-armed-forces-make-list

Jack

downsizer
2nd Jun 2022, 08:52
Waiting for the usual nay sayers to chime up.....

Toadstool
2nd Jun 2022, 09:12
Waiting for the usual nay sayers to chime up.....
Not from this callsign. Well done one and all.

downsizer
2nd Jun 2022, 11:11
Indeed, but certain posters seem to have a chip on the shoulder about these things.

NutLoose
2nd Jun 2022, 11:14
Waiting for the usual nay sayers to chime up.....

Never fear I am here.

Another set of awards that should have gone to the likes of street cleaners with 40+ years of service as opposed to simply for getting promoted off the backs of others. They are a total farce, end off.

Union Jack
2nd Jun 2022, 11:19
HM The Queen's Birthday Honours List for the Armed Forces:

https://www.forces.net/platinum-jubilee/queens-birthday-honours-101-members-armed-forces-make-list

Jack
Followed by a more comprehensive list of honours and commendations for the Royal Air Force:

https://www.raf.mod.uk/news/articles/the-queens-birthday-honours-list-2022/

Jack

Bob Viking
2nd Jun 2022, 11:20
It’s not ‘end of’ though is it. You’ll be back in December and you know it. 🤣

BV

Toadstool
2nd Jun 2022, 12:08
Never fear I am here.

Another set of awards that should have gone to the likes of street cleaners with 40+ years of service as opposed to simply for getting promoted off the backs of others. They are a total farce, end off.

Someone has a bare chest 😂

Avtur
2nd Jun 2022, 12:18
Congratulations to them all.

MPN11
2nd Jun 2022, 13:16
Someone has a bare chest 😂
Same here* (x 2) but congratulations to those listed … even though I have no idea who they are, or what they did to deserve it.

* We both managed to miss all the Jubbly gongs, and our LS&GCs (thanks to the back-dating rules). And it makes no difference to our daily lives.

Bob Viking
2nd Jun 2022, 13:27
MPN I’m quite the opposite. I missed the QGJM since I joined in 99, I’ve never been on Ops and I have five medals. Work that one out!

BV

charliegolf
2nd Jun 2022, 13:30
I’ve never been on Ops and I have five medals. Work that one out!

BV

Member of the Royal Family Bob? Er, your Royal Highness! (Tugs forelock.)

CG

Bob Viking
2nd Jun 2022, 13:48
Haha. No. I’m not even a lowly MBE.

BV

Toadstool
2nd Jun 2022, 14:06
Same here* (x 2) but congratulations to those listed … even though I have no idea who they are, or what they did to deserve it.

* We both managed to miss all the Jubbly gongs, and our LS&GCs (thanks to the back-dating rules). And it makes no difference to our daily lives.

You’re right, it makes absolutely no difference however, I still don’t begrudge people who get rewarded for doing a great job. It’s the same with those moaners every year at promotion lists. I don’t get the sour grapes.

downsizer
2nd Jun 2022, 14:08
MPN I’m quite the opposite. I missed the QGJM since I joined in 99, I’ve never been on Ops and I have five medals. Work that one out!

BV

Hmmm, that is interesting....

QDJM, QPJM, LSGCM..... Go on, what are the other 2? Foreign medals?

NutLoose
2nd Jun 2022, 14:26
Someone has a bare chest 😂

Actually have a lonely GSM in a draw somewhere, not interested in any bits of tin period, the people that should get them as said are those that do the really sh*t jobs for poor pay for a lifetime as some recognition, a mate just got the diamond one as frontline staff of 5 yrs+ ( paramedic )

MPN11
2nd Jun 2022, 14:38
Actually have a lonely GSM in a draw somewhere, not interested in any bits of tin period,
Thank you for your Service.

:ok:

reds & greens
2nd Jun 2022, 16:29
Is it not also around this time, we see a rank increase for Willy Windsor and Harry Hewitt?

charliegolf
2nd Jun 2022, 17:30
Hmmm, that is interesting....

QDJM, QPJM, LSGCM..... Go on, what are the other 2? Foreign medals?

I bid QCVSA (old money) and AFC.

CG

downsizer
2nd Jun 2022, 17:59
I thought an AFC might be a possibilty....QCVSA isn't a medal in the traditional sense is it?

Bob Viking
2nd Jun 2022, 18:31
Thankyou for your votes of confidence in my ability but let’s just say a few years in Oman has helped my rack!

BV

finestkind
2nd Jun 2022, 23:26
Recognition for a job well done, absolutely. Therefore not recognized for a job well done, well that might cause a bit of a murmur especially when some of those awards go to individual's that do not appear to have done as much as those passed over. Understood that a line has to be drawn somewhere. Would be nice if it was a straight line and not quite so wavy.

25F
3rd Jun 2022, 00:55
Is it not also around this time, we see a rank increase for Willy Windsor and Harry Hewitt?

Oh please. Harry looks like his uncle. That's where those genes come from.

"[Diana] hadn’t even met Hewitt when Harry was conceived [in 1984]."
is one quote I have found.

I doubt that anyone here would want their parentage disputed in public.

reds & greens
3rd Jun 2022, 14:27
Oh please. Harry looks like his uncle. That's where those genes come from.

"[Diana] hadn’t even met Hewitt when Harry was conceived [in 1984]."
is one quote I have found.

I doubt that anyone here would want their parentage disputed in public.
I truly hope you do not refer to the second son of HM, being his uncle...

Union Jack
3rd Jun 2022, 14:43
I truly hope you do not refer to the second son of HM, being his uncle...
Think Northamptonshire!

Jack

25F
3rd Jun 2022, 18:21
To be clear... he looks like a Spencer because he is a Spencer.

Cat Techie
3rd Jun 2022, 20:45
Never fear I am here.

Another set of awards that should have gone to the likes of street cleaners with 40+ years of service as opposed to simply for getting promoted off the backs of others. They are a total farce, end off.
Well I got two pieces of paper from Jock Stirrup and Sky Walker 10 years apart. First one was for spending 6 months out of trade proving a certain maintenance computer system could get correct data applied from a fleet selection from a totally corrupted system that was in place. Second was all work done in mostly my time that ended up with an end of service ceremonial scheme, end of service ceremonial brochure and a **** load of quick fund raising that possibility added 5k ish to a fund to help a Sqn mate in a mater of weeks. Bob V knows what. Told I had the award a week before OOA and I had already stuck my notice in. Last time I wore No 1s to get it was two days before ID card was thrown in. Bob could gauge of my efforts were worth recognition or not.

Cat Techie
3rd Jun 2022, 20:49
Think Northamptonshire!

Jack
Another old Charlie you mean?

Cat Techie
3rd Jun 2022, 21:00
Never fear I am here.

Another set of awards that should have gone to the likes of street cleaners with 40+ years of service as opposed to simply for getting promoted off the backs of others. They are a total farce, end off.
Not promotions with cash. Piece of metal or paper. With tea and cakes. My paper was for going further than others. My medals were all ops or long gong. One jubilee gong for 50. Ops medals were both ones where incoming was a daily part of living, certainly the second.

NutLoose
3rd Jun 2022, 21:49
Sad to say. a commendation to be polite is worth jack in the real world, just as my good show and well done.

Think about it you saved the RAF a fortune and got a bit of paper to hang up in the bog for your efforts... who saw who coming.

Cat Techie
3rd Jun 2022, 22:10
Sad to say. a commendation to be polite is worth jack in the real world, just as my good show and well done.

Think about it you saved the RAF a fortune and got a bit of paper to hang up in the bog for your efforts... who saw who coming.

Indeed it is and I didn't expect either of them, however your good show and well done was you doing your job properly. Mine was for going way beyond what I had to do. The paper means nothing. What I managed to produce with what I did will out last me and my descendant's will be able to see real world things I did. Can you say that? ;)

NutLoose
3rd Jun 2022, 22:50
We had a Chief at Odiham designed a ground running rig for the Puma thus saving a fortune in having to install the engines in an aircraft to test them, The manufacturers said it couldn’t be done, but he did it anyways, and he was awarded a commendation and £25, the RAF saved a fortune and I believe sold the design to the manufacturer who sold it on to operators.. He had gone round to the Staishes to collect his award, was so disgusted by the whole affair, he spotted the cheque on a desk, he picked it up and walked out.. He had designed some other test stands, the RAF never saw those.

I can say my descendants can see things I have done in the future, but as I will have gone it will mean nothing to me.

Cat Techie
4th Jun 2022, 08:01
We had a Chief at Odiham designed a ground running rig for the Puma thus saving a fortune in having to install the engines in an aircraft to test them, The manufacturers said it couldn’t be done, but he did it anyways, and he was awarded a commendation and £25, the RAF saved a fortune and I believe sold the design to the manufacturer who sold it on to operators.. He had gone round to the Staishes to collect his award, was so disgusted by the whole affair, he spotted the cheque on a desk, he picked it up and walked out.. He had designed some other test stands, the RAF never saw those.

I can say my descendants can see things I have done in the future, but as I will have gone it will mean nothing to me.
Will to my future offspring, so that makes me happy. You want to be Scrooge, well that's your lookout.

Lima Juliet
5th Jun 2022, 07:25
I agree with you Cat Techie in that it is nice to get recognition amongst your peers and it does indeed mean that you are acknowledged formally in the Service’s history. I also agree that the certificates are a bit naff in that they normally reside on your “I love me wall” somewhere in your house which few rarely see. As a recipient of a 2-star, 3-stars’ and 4-star commendation over my career, then I think we could learn much from our Allies. They have a very simple pin badge that they wear on No 2 and No 1 equivalent uniform, here are some examples.

This is the Indian Air Force’s Chief of Air Staff (COAS) Commendation badge:

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1024x768/80e0aecb_6c89_4288_ade9_c47d5009f9a0_93f39ec4d49d91882d9f50b 69eb27adfc1c3d15b.jpeg
Here it is being worn on this female Flt Lt’s uniform on her left lapel pocket:
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1163x1280/273fd3ff_18cd_4912_82e4_ae26ef3a2d86_966493017529c35ed6871be 545cde7fe30600a6e.jpeg

The RAAF do it even better with a big and small version (big for No 1 and small for No 2) and they wear it on the right lapel on the No 2 shirt. They also have bronze, silver and gold for 2, 3 and 4 star level commendation. They really have thought this through and the RAF would do well to think along the same lines (both Gen Y and Gen Z thrive on visual recognition - so this is defo Next Gen Air Force stuff).

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/217x232/606f7c64_3bd6_4aa4_8c06_e507a1d5988b_45ab3bc4128501686e04432 7477db8ddbe0a5627.jpeg

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/600x400/f671a4e1_a339_4c79_a834_3d57ea4afb10_4a898e35f4aaeb30f537400 6d9538541f9de57b1.jpeg

So if any of the RAF’s Senior Leadership Team read this - there is an idea for you. Very simple, very smart and very next generation… :ok:

NutLoose
5th Jun 2022, 12:18
I’m afraid they just blew the budget on renaming various ranks.



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