"Your flight was cancelled because of air traffic restrictions"

[ForkTailedDrKiller]

We're sorry we had to cancel your flight JQ906 26/03/2022 from Brisbane to TownsvilleYour flight was cancelled because of air traffic restrictions.

What the hell?
There is a reason DStar is only ever my last resort!

[turbantime]

Runway works meaning ‘only’ one runway available for the majority of this weekend at Brisbane.
https://australianaviation.com.au/2022/03/brisbane-airport-runway-maintenance-to-disrupt-noise-pollution-trials/amp/

[ForkTailedDrKiller]

Runway works meaning ‘only’ one runway available for the majority of this weekend at Brisbane.
https://australianaviation.com.au/2022/03/brisbane-airport-runway-maintenance-to-disrupt-noise-pollution-trials/amp/

Thanks for the reply.
So Brisbane has forgotten how to operate with only one runway?
I wouldn't have thought post covid ops were at a level where BNE couldn't manage with one runway!

"We have one runway for landing (its working cause I came in on the flight from Darwin 2 hrs earlier), and we have one runway for taking off. The TO runway is broken so nobody can take off"!

[10JQKA]

Sounds like Covid iso requirements are affecting all parts of the industry maybe ?

There are notams out for TRA (TIBA) in N QLD.

[turbantime]

Thanks for the reply.
So Brisbane has forgotten how to operate with only one runway?
I wouldn't have thought post covid ops were at a level where BNE couldn't manage with one runway!

"We have one runway for landing (its working cause I came in on the flight from Darwin 2 hrs earlier), and we have one runway for taking off. The TO runway is broken so nobody can take off"!
I know you’re pissed but there’s this thing called cascading disrupts. Today you got unlucky, airlines don’t cancel just to target you specifically. If you can’t work out what/why/how this could have happened with the information provided, you clearly don’t belong on this forum. Best complain on a frequent flyer site and not a professional pilot forum.

[Dorf]

That's like saying Uber sucks because a road was closed and they made me late.

[morno]

Forky! **** I thought you’d disappeared long ago :p, good to see you.

My guess is you’re not going to be the only one affected by it, and Jetstar are merely trying to minimise overall disruption to the whole network today.

It sucks, but the same thing could have happened with Qantas as well.

The crew at Jetstar do a good job, so don’t let one disruption ruin your experience and be sure to give them another chance :ok:

[ForkTailedDrKiller]

I know you’re pissed but there’s this thing called cascading disrupts. Today you got unlucky, airlines don’t cancel just to target you specifically. If you can’t work out what/why/how this could have happened with the information provided, you clearly don’t belong on this forum. Best complain on a frequent flyer site and not a professional pilot forum.
Thanks for putting me straight - as lowly self-loading freight I don't know these things!
"Cascading disrupts huh"? In 45 yrs of flying TAA. Australian, Qantas I've only ever been cascadingly disrupted by Ansett, Virgin, Air North and JetStar!

[ForkTailedDrKiller]

That's like saying Uber sucks because a road was closed and they made me late.
Never used Uber. Seems akin to PPLs doing "shonky" charters?

[RadioSaigon]

…you clearly don’t belong on this forum. Best complain on a frequent flyer site and not a professional pilot forum.

hmmmm… never a bad idea to Know your target before playing the man, not the ball.

Greetings FTDK, long time no see! Hope you’re well.

[ForkTailedDrKiller]

Forky! **** I thought you’d disappeared long ago :p, good to see you.
My guess is you’re not going to be the only one affected by it, and Jetstar are merely trying to minimise overall disruption to the whole network today.
It sucks, but the same thing could have happened with Qantas as well.
The crew at Jetstar do a good job, so don’t let one disruption ruin your experience and be sure to give them another chance :ok:

G'day Morno - I'm still upright! Almost did a Warnie last year but was smart enough to call 000 rather than heading off on a holiday. Unexpected, out of the blue, and just after I had passed my medical! Yes, it is possible to pass a stress ECG with a severely occluded cardiac artery and all through my episode I never at any time had an abnormal ECG!
A well placed titanium spring and I am 100% healthy again!
These days I spend more time fishing than flying but I have a consultancy that still takes me all over northern Australia. Second time in a row that its unexpectedly taken 2 days to get home from Darwin.
Yeah, I know a few JetStar crew - but the operation ....................
I'm back in my comfort zone with Qantas this morning!
Cheers

[turbantime]

Thanks for putting me straight - as lowly self-loading freight I don't know these things!
"Cascading disrupts huh"? In 45 yrs of flying TAA. Australian, Qantas I've only ever been cascadingly disrupted by Ansett, Virgin, Air North and JetStar!
Fair enough. In all those years of experience you would know that sometimes sh*t just happens.

[Mr Approach]

Heard this one many years ago.....

"Your flight has been cancelled due to Government regulations"

Apparently there is/was a regulation that all the aircraft's engines had to be working!

[PoppaJo]

What do you want them to say?

‘The First Officers kid fell sick so he won’t be in today as his wife needs to work also so your flight is now cancelled’

Operational or Engineering excuses will do just fine.

I once had a CC member go sick during a turnaround, now the ground crew advised the passengers in the terminal it’s cancelled because a crew member feels ill and needs to go home. Now as we walked through the terminal back to our cars we copped a whole heap of abuse walking past 200 people. Please just blame weather...atc...engineering..whatever..next time thanks.

[AmarokGTI]

Thanks for putting me straight - as lowly self-loading freight I don't know these things!
"Cascading disrupts huh"? In 45 yrs of flying TAA. Australian, Qantas I've only ever been cascadingly disrupted by Ansett, Virgin, Air North and JetStar!

I must have had your share of cancelled Qantas flights as well as my own.

[ForkTailedDrKiller]

What do you want them to say?

‘The First Officers kid fell sick so he won’t be in today as his wife needs to work also so your flight is now cancelled’

Operational or Engineering excuses will do just fine.

I once had a CC member go sick during a turnaround, now the ground crew advised the passengers in the terminal it’s cancelled because a crew member feels ill and needs to go home. Now as we walked through the terminal back to our cars we copped a whole heap of abuse walking past 200 people. Please just blame weather...atc...engineering..whatever..next time thanks.

Here's a thought - whistle up a replacement and get the paying punters to where they need to be!

[Capt Fathom]

Have you ever had to cancel any of your ‘flights’ Forkie?

[Lookleft]

Here's a thought - whistle up a replacement and get the paying punters to where they need to be!

You think its bad now, wait until all the airlines ramp up their schedules to 120% of pre-covid with 80% of the crew. No point in "whistling up a replacement" when there are no replacements to be had.

[megle2]

Welcome back Forky, been wondering where you were.

[ForkTailedDrKiller]

Have you ever had to cancel any of your ‘flights’ Forkie?

Yes, but I haven't left my pax stranded on the footpath in the late afternoon, 1400 km from home, with nowhere to go!

Not easy to find accommodation in Brisbane at short notice, with all the cancellations, and post the recent flooding demand for temporary accommodation. I got a cab to take me to all the nearest motels he knew while I got on my computer in the back seat trying to find a vacancy. I lucked in at the ninth motel visited when the receptionist took pity on me and gave me a room that they had taken out of service because of damage in the bathroom.

[Lookleft]

I lucked in at the ninth motel visited when the receptionist took pity on me and gave me a room that they had taken out of service because on damage in the bathroom.

I had a similar experience with Jetstar many years ago when the hotel I had stayed at the night before didn't have a booking for me and my travelling companion and didn't have any rooms to offer. It was 12:30am. My travelling companion rang a mate of his staying at another hotel in the city and shared a room with him. I was assisted by the concierge and found accommodation at a golf course hotel but I had to check out at 10:00am and I arrived at 1:30am. The difference to your situation was that my travelling companion and I were Jetstar crew and we were left in the lurch in a city not in Australia. If you think being a Jetstar passenger is bad you should try working for them!

[megan]

Was stuck in Brisbane when Jetstar was having aircraft serviceability problems some years ago and the treatment received was exemplary, taxi, motel, phone call all provided free to all the pax. QF is not the be all to end all, my very worse airline experience was as a full fare paying first class trans pacific pax. A recent pre covid QF interstate flight indicated that the cuisine served for lunch down the back end of the aircraft rather detracted from the "full service airline" claim, the Italian wine was top class however. Frequently travel with Jetstar and no complaints from me, so far, who needs a meal to travel the longest domestic flight to be had?

[Phil Errup]

FTDK good to see you back!

Someone mentioned it above… your flight, and a number of Virgin and Qantas flights where all cancelled that evening because the whole of Northern Australian airspace went to TIBA at around 8pm.

To the best of my knowledge, it was as a result of COVID sick leave in Brisbane Centre…

Now we could debate the idea of commercial jets flying around in TIBA… but I won’t open that can of worms 😝

[ForkTailedDrKiller]

Someone mentioned it above… your flight, and a number of Virgin and Qantas flights where all cancelled that evening because the whole of Northern Australian airspace went to TIBA at around 8pm.

That's a better line than, "Your flight was cancelled because of air traffic restrictions", but we should have been safely back on the ground an hour before that!

[uberrobbo]

Never used Uber. Seems akin to PPLs doing "shonky" charters?

OK Boomer.

Seriously, one is a legitimate business; the other is an illegal practice.

[Mr Proach]

Whistling replacements may result in unintended consequences. (especially inside the Terminal)

[Icarus2001]

Now we could debate the idea of commercial jets flying around in TIBA… Perhaps add in commercial jets in G airspace, or CTAF areas with no RFF?

[neville_nobody]

Seriously, one is a legitimate business; the other is an illegal practice.

Technically they're both illegal it's just that the government didn't have the courage to enforce their own law then it got out of hand.

[601]

Technically they're both illegal it's just that the government didn't have the courage to enforce their own law then it got out of hand.

You got that correct but forgot you to insert "State" before government(s).