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SimonK
10th Mar 2022, 19:35
Just announced on Twitter:

https://twitter.com/rcaf_arc/status/1502018065877413896?s=21

Ant T
10th Mar 2022, 20:16
Photo (from a distance) on CTVnews.ca website shows a fairly intact looking airframe lying on its side.

Pilot DAR
10th Mar 2022, 21:27
Another news report:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/gander-helicopter-crash-1.6380399

snakepit
11th Mar 2022, 07:04
Photo (from a distance) on CTVnews.ca website shows a fairly intact looking airframe lying on its side.

slightly closer photo


https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/2000x1504/5f688e60_2772_465e_88f1_5a5863db86d5_97dc951761a95d5848346ec 51bbd9051aa469587.jpeg

minigundiplomat
11th Mar 2022, 09:17
Matches the Norwegian versions…..
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/735x417/7687c618_078c_4509_b5ab_fe3ce04bd621_428aef5dc1d9821e553cfa4 eeaa24ed3792c17cd.jpeg

spannermonkey
11th Mar 2022, 10:27
Speedy recovery to those injured.

Baldeep Inminj
11th Mar 2022, 14:22
Sounds like the pilots seat suddenly dropped to lowest setting whilst in the hover. Not confirmed but from a reliable source.

ShyTorque
11th Mar 2022, 14:40
Embarrassing! I hope they aren't badly injured.

I once had this happen to me in a Puma. Thankfully, it happened during the initial climb rather than the hover, so we had enough ground clearance to avoid a great deal more trouble.

AAKEE
11th Mar 2022, 22:27
I once had this happen to me in a Puma. Thankfully, it happened during the initial climb rather than the hover, so we had enough ground clearance to avoid a great deal more trouble.

I had the seat suddenly coming loose in the lenght adjustment in a NH90 sending me all
the way to the rear stop during the final
phase of a landing in a small hole in the forrest.
I didnt have any direct problems to keep
control and my copilot was quickly on the controls
also, hearing the clonk from the seat.

Its easy to imagine a smaller pilot going all the way back and at the same time a copilot that dont react as quick as mine did, and the formula for an accident is there.

Seats need to be very safe(fool proof) but I think the manufacturers often build in risks for this
kind of problem.

Ascend Charlie
12th Mar 2022, 02:08
I had a similar problem but in an Aerocommander during takeoff - as the machine rotated, the fuselage flexed and my seat ran to the back stop - single pilot. Luckily the pax behind me pushed the seat forward again.

Haven't had it happen in a helicopter yet, though out of the 11 types of chopper, only the Huey/ B 212/412 and the S76 had height-adjustable seats. The rest of them contributed to my bad back.

malabo
12th Mar 2022, 04:34
I heard it was taxiing, not in flight. Locked nosewheel maybe?

diginagain
12th Mar 2022, 08:26
The Lynx seat was self-height-adjustable, and once dropped to the bottom stop on me on a LL sortie, leaving me staring at dials rather than German farmland. The pre-flight part of the FRC does state to check the efficacy of the locking mechanism, I wonder how much extra strain the Kevlar buckets put on the pins?

albatross
12th Mar 2022, 19:29
Not the same but I once had the cyclic grip come off in my hand in the bottom of the flare for a full on autorotation….fun and games.
“You have control !” I said very quickly to the manufacturer’s instructor who was closely monitoring the controls. Luckily the wiring from the grip down into the cyclic stick were still attached. Level and touchdown were not a problem.
Much laughter as we discussed quality control in the assembly of the wonderful machine.
Used a multi-tool to quickly fix it. (checked his grip to for proper adhesion to the airframe also.)

ShyTorque
12th Mar 2022, 19:34
Many accidents are caused by the nut on the cyclic…… ;)

Variable Load
13th Mar 2022, 11:44
Many accidents are caused by the nut on the cyclic…… ;)

I've gotta remember that one :ok:

malabo
7th Apr 2022, 17:32
Preliminary is out. Still lots of questions.

https://rcaf.forces.gc.ca/en/flight-safety/article-template-flight-safety.page?doc=ch149-cormorant-ch149903-from-the-investigator/l15jmm95