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rotorrookie
8th Mar 2022, 09:19
For all you operators in the wonderful world of EASA, how are you doing with fulfilling the latest CAME safety management requirements.?
In the perfect world of EASA you should have one person as Safety Manager (single focal point) both on Ops side and Maintenance side and the requirements for this person are absolutely crazy.

COMPETENCY OF THE SAFETY MANAGER
The competency of a safety manager should include, but not be limited to, the following:
(a) knowledge of ICAO standards and European requirements on safety management;
(b) an understanding of management systems, including compliance monitoring systems;
(c) an understanding of risk management;
(d) an understanding of safety investigation techniques and root cause methodologies;
(e) an understanding of HF;
(f) understanding and promotion of a positive safety culture;
(g) operational experience related to the activities of the organisation;
(h) safety management experience;
(i) interpersonal and leadership skills, and the ability to influence staff;
(j) oral and written communications skills;
(k) data management, analytical and problem-solving skills.

This maybe works in the airline operation world (even they are struggling find "qualified" people) but this is nightmare for small non-complex operators to comply with and I've heard of few that are about turn in their AOC's.
This is all done in the name of safety improvement and for operator to have better oversight but in my experience that has not been the problem within small operation that I know.
It should be a different requirement or alternative means of compliance (AltmoC) for small operators.
Are there any AltmoC been approved in EU states ?

mindsweeper
8th Mar 2022, 22:55
If you were approved by local regulator within EASA as the Safety Manager for Ops, then you should have no problem being approved as the Safety Manager for CAMO. The requirements are not at all crazy, and one person can hold the role for both ops and CAMO at the same time.

All EASA CAMOs need to be compliant and approved by their local regulators by March 24th, and that is including the 6 month extension given by EASA due to Covid (not sure why Covid would have any impact on CAMOs rewriting their CAME and train their staff on SMS). So just about 2 weeks left, if an operator at this point needs to hand in their AOC it is poor work on their side, you have had over 2 years to get compliant.

minigundiplomat
9th Mar 2022, 04:48
For all you operators in the wonderful world of EASA, how are you doing with fulfilling the latest CAME safety management requirements.?
In the perfect world of EASA you should have one person as Safety Manager (single focal point) both on Ops side and Maintenance side and the requirements for this person are absolutely crazy.

COMPETENCY OF THE SAFETY MANAGER
The competency of a safety manager should include, but not be limited to, the following:
(a) knowledge of ICAO standards and European requirements on safety management;
(b) an understanding of management systems, including compliance monitoring systems;
(c) an understanding of risk management;
(d) an understanding of safety investigation techniques and root cause methodologies;
(e) an understanding of HF;
(f) understanding and promotion of a positive safety culture;
(g) operational experience related to the activities of the organisation;
(h) safety management experience;
(i) interpersonal and leadership skills, and the ability to influence staff;
(j) oral and written communications skills;
(k) data management, analytical and problem-solving skills.

This maybe works in the airline operation world (even they are struggling find "qualified" people) but this is nightmare for small non-complex operators to comply with and I've heard of few that are about turn in their AOC's.
This is all done in the name of safety improvement and for operator to have better oversight but in my experience that has not been the problem within small operation that I know.
It should be a different requirement or alternative means of compliance (AltmoC) for small operators.
Are there any AltmoC been approved in EU states ?

Those requirements are not exactly onerous for a safety manager in an aviation setting. Which would you scrap?

Rigga
9th Mar 2022, 21:32
ALL of that stuff has been available for reading and adopting as a ‘best practice’ since 2012 and I would estimate that about 95% of UK has had it in place for some years...and we only left just over a year ago.