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BabyYoda
21st Oct 2021, 08:57
... since they destroyed too many families, by firing all the KA pilots, by firing hundreds of CX pilots, by cutting the CoS of the "lucky" ones by up to 60%.

If you ever feel the need to "help out" again, please reread your emails from one year ago, or just remember how you felt on the 21st of October 2020.

Oasis
21st Oct 2021, 10:13
On the London base they also helped out by voluntarily going to 50 percent. A lot of good that did them.

Memorylapse
21st Oct 2021, 10:21
Just remember that by getting rid of you, it enables them to pay a non PR bedmaker in Hong Kong a salary. I speak for based crew, I speak for KA crew. Just remember, that is the company you are working for.

Thank you for your 20 years service, Captain. We’ll rather keep a 500hr piston hotshot on salary in Honkie.

What a laugh.

S22
21st Oct 2021, 12:12
Being fired by email after 30 years certainly takes the biscuit.

AndyBrown350
21st Oct 2021, 12:13
And another crying post...

Memorylapse
21st Oct 2021, 12:50
AndyClown350,

No one really cried on this thread - just a few comments made.

Remember one thing - life changes. You never, ever know when you find yourself at the bottom end of the cycle next time.

Table For 1
21st Oct 2021, 12:54
A sad anniversary....one can only hope that some of these Swire bully boys are about to find themselves in the dole queue as well. There is delightful irony in CX being outbullied by the CCP.

cxflog
22nd Oct 2021, 02:30
AndyClown350,

quick to jump the gun and call everyone out for crying eh. It’s good to have posts like this to remind those with short memories how cx treats it’s pilots

kmagyoyo
22nd Oct 2021, 03:19
cxflog I cant figure out is he's a smug PR SO or a 3rd floor troll. Boring either way.

Will IB Fayed
22nd Oct 2021, 13:52
And I thought your post was about 1 year to go, not looking in the past. For that is the more interesting date....

Drc40
23rd Oct 2021, 03:44
Crying post? What a bozo. Like you've been Rip Van Winkled for the last 20 years and just woke up.

MPPCAG
23rd Oct 2021, 13:55
I think it should be you crying Andy if you work for CX, you're the one looking at COS18 or worse for the rest of your 'career'.....

Oddball77
24th Oct 2021, 08:38
HKE COS21 is a taste of whats to come for future CX 'career' pilots.

dabz
24th Oct 2021, 09:40
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kmagyoyo
24th Oct 2021, 13:54
Any minute now the 'tell me one other airline with better conditions you can go to' morons will appear to defend this POS.

CXIT.

Sqwak7700
24th Oct 2021, 14:53
Sounds like they’ve already priced in the massive correction coming in housing. HKG (and China) are about to see their property bubbles burst spectacularly.

Get out of them flats if you haven’t yet boys and girls, they might be repriced for what they are actually worth pretty soon. You’ll be able to then repurchase them, no mortgage, at a fraction of the previous price… but you just won’t have a need for them anymore.

noboloco
25th Oct 2021, 01:06
kmagyoyo

So when are you leaving?

kmagyoyo
25th Oct 2021, 01:18
Annnnd there he is now. Well if I can get more SLV i'll milk that for four more months, failing that December. How about you?

Oddball77
25th Oct 2021, 04:04
Sqwak7700

This 'imminent' housing correction is like saying there's a pilot shortage, I don't see any correction in property prices in HK - the banks, HK Govt, estate agents and home owners have too much vested interest to allow a property crash to happen.

ng_lan_fly
25th Oct 2021, 04:32
:ok: Exactly my thoughts.

S22
25th Oct 2021, 04:55
Ive been hearing that for nearly forty years. When I first arrived a 3000 sq foot House in Clearwater Bay was 1.8 million. I heard repeatedly it’s crazy it can’t last.

Sam Ting Wong
25th Oct 2021, 05:33
Always the same mistake. People simply compare whatever they can buy at home for the same price and then conclude real estate in HK is overvalued. It isn't.

cxflog
25th Oct 2021, 06:05
Exactly the same scenario in Oz. People have been ‘predicting’ a housing collapse for 10 years but it’s only gone up and up. Now with covid that’s pushed house prices in places like Sydney and melb even higher. I don’t see it going any other way if not even a global pandemic can bring the prices down.

noboloco
25th Oct 2021, 09:33
kmagyoyo

I bet that this time next year you are still here, still complaining and saying there are better options and with a similar excuse of “just a few more months”.

Memorylapse
25th Oct 2021, 09:46
Well, happy at least some guys moved on. Some got jobs in the US, the alcoholic from DB went back to AHK, one or two lucky one’s with corporate jobs in Aus. Hang in there - won’t be soon, but will change at some point.

Progress Wanchai
25th Oct 2021, 16:59
Ten years ago the Hong Kong government introduced mortgage restrictions to cool down the property speculators. 50% deposit, additional stamp duties for a second property, additional stamp duties for non-PR, etc. The government could simply unwind some of those restrictions if required.

Unlike Australia which is so desperate to prop up its housing market that it has incentives to buy, as opposed to Hong Kong’s disincentives.
One jurisdiction has restrictions it can ease to assist a falling property market. The other
jurisdiction is throwing printed money around.

Back on topic. All the best to our ex KA and CX comrades wherever you may be. Hong Kong and the company is a lesser place since you moved beyond

flapsupdown
26th Oct 2021, 10:24
FOs AND CNs.

Dingleberry Handpump
26th Oct 2021, 11:09
What’s all that about?

ascalehero
26th Oct 2021, 11:38
Sooo we now have second officers doing P1 'upgrades' on SO pay with a new heavily reduced number of simulator sessions. . If ever the swiss cheese holes were to align with such highly motivated individuals .
Cut the training + cut the pay = cut the standard

flapsupdown
26th Oct 2021, 13:10
P1SO = 2 SO North America flights

Oddball77
26th Oct 2021, 16:36
Wait until P3's flying single crew across the Pacific whilst in the cruise as CX wants to implement by 2025?

RAT Management
26th Oct 2021, 17:55
Pedalz

Why do you think sick leave policy gets a mention in the weekly rag so much? Sick leave is through the roof. A different type of market forces is emerging. It's what the cabin crew have done for years. I also don't see cabin crew filling US tax returns. pilots are their own worst enemy and management know this, so nothing will ever change.

kmagyoyo
26th Oct 2021, 20:28
Thats right nobloco, then i'll hit 65 and become a sim instructor and complain even more!

herewego75
1st Nov 2021, 02:26
Thanks for the sleeping tips, seems like the 747 has sunk to new low's.
Its shocking to see!

Yet the 747 pilots are suckers for punishment. Stand up for yourselves for once!