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57mm
15th Sep 2021, 20:50
2140 tonight and I'm in the garden with the dog in Downham Market. A normal looking KC-135 trundles over at about 3000ft, inbound to Mildenhall, I guess. But shortly after, what is clearly a mil fast jet passes over at about 2000ft, heading about 150, with no lights whatsoever. Could only see an indistinct shape, but it was definitely without lights, which is definitely abnormal.

treadigraph
15th Sep 2021, 20:58
The KC-135 was a C-17 inbound Mildenhall, no sign of the fast jet but an Osprey also routed over Downham Market at some point post 9.30pm.

1771 DELETE
15th Sep 2021, 21:23
I guess we need to bring back some reece lessons !

ShyTorque
16th Sep 2021, 08:39
Air to air refuelling is practiced by night “no lights”, using night vision devices. Small lights on the tanker are used as cues for the receiver aircraft but these are not visible to the naked eye. Maybe that’s what you were seeing.

ShyTorque
16th Sep 2021, 08:40
I guess we need to bring back some reece lessons !

Spelling lessons, too? ;)

NRU74
16th Sep 2021, 09:49
Spelling lessons, too? ;)

Ahem, 1771 may point out that over in the UK we'd usually write 'Air to Air refuelling is practised.....'

212man
16th Sep 2021, 09:55
Ahem, 1771 may point out that over in the UK we'd usually write 'Air to Air refuelling is practised.....'
Or, even, 'air-to-air'

ShyTorque
16th Sep 2021, 12:16
Ahem, 1771 may point out that over in the UK we'd usually write 'Air to Air refuelling is practised.....'

Capital letter for the first "Air", but definitely not needed in the middle of a sentence.... ;)

57mm
16th Sep 2021, 12:48
Back to the thread: AAR is not practised overland, IIRC. Ospreys have a distinctive sound and this aircraft definitely did not match it. It was a mil fast jet without lights and definitely not an Eagle either, as they also have a distinctive sound. I just find it odd that an aircraft is even permitted to fly without lights at night.....

sycamore
16th Sep 2021, 16:46
Maybe a `stealth` jet from `El Adem with grass`...?

NRU74
16th Sep 2021, 17:11
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I meant the verb !

ShyTorque
16th Sep 2021, 19:38
Back to the thread: AAR is not practised overland, IIRC. Ospreys have a distinctive sound and this aircraft definitely did not match it. It was a mil fast jet without lights and definitely not an Eagle either, as they also have a distinctive sound. I just find it odd that an aircraft is even permitted to fly without lights at night.....


I have previously done AAR overland, but admittedly not in U.K.

Military aircraft can and do fly in U.K. without lights. Normally NOTAM’d though.

DC10RealMan
17th Sep 2021, 22:33
218 Squadron Short Stirling from RAF Downham Market?

El Grifo
17th Sep 2021, 22:55
Welsh Crew ??
El G.