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LowNSlow
15th Sep 2021, 11:15
This morning my charts are playing up. Every time I put my mouse pointer on a chart the columns move to the left and cannot be dragged back. Same thing happens when it hovers over a picture produced by Snipping Tool.

It's driving me nuts!! Any suggestions gratefully received.

treadigraph
15th Sep 2021, 11:17
Clean it and the surface it's moving over. Failing that, new battery which often seems to quieten mine down...

LowNSlow
15th Sep 2021, 11:19
treadi; tried all that to no avail...

The mouse is working perfectly well on everything including Excel.

Just noticed the sliders on the side of File Manager slide down to the bottom when I mouse over them

treadigraph
15th Sep 2021, 11:26
Hmmmm... reboot? All the obvious ones...

Is it a laptop? Is there something on the touch pad?

LowNSlow
15th Sep 2021, 11:51
I don't think it's the mouse, when I go to the Windows list of apps and click on one they all start scrolling down. Also if I click on Task View all the items scroll down so it's a PC problem not a mouse problem.
Turned it off and restarted nothing changed. I updated my Epson software yesterday which is the only change I have made. As opening Apps & features results in them scrolling down I can't click on it and reverse the changes!! AAAARRRGGGGHHHHH

NutLoose
15th Sep 2021, 12:09
If its an IR one have a look at the light sensor, mine had picked up a hair that caused it to go nuts once
Right click on start, go into device manager and then mouse, if more than one, delete the others and then try update drivers or roll back drivers.

DaveReidUK
15th Sep 2021, 12:10
Boot into Safe Mode and uninstall the update.

LowNSlow
15th Sep 2021, 15:46
Tried those steps thanks. Reinstalled windows and I still can't stop any open item scrolling down the page.

Definitely nothing to do with the mouse unfortunately. I can feel a new PC coming on as it is now virtually unusable.

NutLoose
15th Sep 2021, 15:49
I had that, trying to remember what it was

LowNSlow
15th Sep 2021, 15:50
Also if I click on a box to show preferences it opens then shuts immediately.

I've just downloaded SkyDemon and when I open the Routes section and click on a route they all just scroll until the last one is showing and I can't stop it.

NutLoose
15th Sep 2021, 15:50
https://silicophilic.com/windows-10-keeps-scrolling-down-automatically/

NutLoose
15th Sep 2021, 15:53
https://www.computerhope.com/issues/ch001495.htm

treadigraph
15th Sep 2021, 15:54
What a bugger. I'm sure I had a similar problem once.

Not a stuck down arrow key on the main keyboard area or the number area?

TheReverend
15th Sep 2021, 16:27
What a bugger. I'm sure I had a similar problem once.

Not a stuck down arrow key on the main keyboard area or the number area?

It's not a wireless mouse is it?

Winemaker
15th Sep 2021, 16:27
Have you go to 'Settings' and mucked around with the mouse stuff? Possibly the scroll function is set way to extreme.

LowNSlow
15th Sep 2021, 18:05
I've reset the computer, restored the computer, gone through all the stuff Nutloose provided (thanks) and it's still the same.

It's definitely not the mouse as when the thing starts up the date and time scroll down the screen even before I log in.

PC World here I come....

LowNSlow
15th Sep 2021, 18:27
I've checked the mouse settings, done a system restore, I've reinstalled windows, I've checked the physical keys on the keyboard, changed the batteries in both the mouse and the keyboard but it's still the same.

When I check the mouse and the keyboard they are both installed twice.

Thanks for all the suggestions people but I think it's time to head off to PC World.....

Ascend Charlie
15th Sep 2021, 19:10
.....get a Mac.....

treadigraph
15th Sep 2021, 19:12
Why, is it raining?

Good luck LnS

Mr Optimistic
15th Sep 2021, 21:13
Have you tried with a plug in mouse ? Seems a bit radical to dump the computer. You could dig up the garden and demolish the house while your at it.
Think I would try uninstalling keyboard and mouse in device manager, all instances, unplug keyboard and mouse, reboot, switch off, reconnect keyboard and mouse start up.
If that doesn't work, and you can't be bothered reseting the bios, torch the f*cker.

LowNSlow
15th Sep 2021, 21:28
Mr O. Yup, done the plug in mouse. Did all the uninstalling etc. No change...

Now trying to make up my mind over a laptop with docking station to connect to two screens etc or just replace the tired old tower unit with a new one. The prices are very similar.

EEngr
15th Sep 2021, 22:52
Try a different mouse.

NutLoose
15th Sep 2021, 22:59
Try

https://softwarekeep.com/help-center/how-to-fix-windows-10-scrolling-by-itself

NutLoose
15th Sep 2021, 23:08
Thinking about this, even though you reinstalled windows your pc would remember your previous settings by downloading them off the cloud, hence why it’s the same. Go start, (right click?) then device manager, find the mouse, open it and uninstall it, make sure it does not reinstall itself, it might reappear, if it does look in settings and see if you can do it there, then shut down and restart, it should auto detect the mouse and reinstall it, as you won’t have the mouse hold the power button and it should force a shut down.

NutLoose
15th Sep 2021, 23:18
Is there anything for the mouse in the bios? F2 on boot.

Miles Magister
16th Sep 2021, 08:04
Seem to remember I had a similar problem once. Must have been the spreadsheet so I Control and A, copied teh data and opened a new Excel file and Control and Paste the data in to the new sheet. Carried on fine with the new sheet.

arf23
16th Sep 2021, 09:13
it this is a laptop be sure to disable the touchpad. Occaisonally this happens to me and its when I've accidentally turned on the touchpad and my hand brushes the touchpad as I'm typing. On my Acer the fn-F7 key enables/disables the touchpad. Other than that I would suspect a stuck key.

oh, and run a virus check, Could there be some remote control software on the PC where somebody is driving you mad by messing with the mouse?

Jetstream67
16th Sep 2021, 16:48
https://social.technet.microsoft.com/wiki/contents/articles/39790.how-to-drag-down-files-without-holding-the-mouse-button-in-windows-10.aspx

jugofpropwash
17th Sep 2021, 00:04
Sounds like a stuck key or maybe something stuck on the touch pad. Try prying the arrow key up?

Jhieminga
17th Sep 2021, 09:16
I too would expect this to be a hardware problem. Have you tried another keyboard? Or just unplugging the keyboard and see if the scrolling stops? Whenever something like this happened to me I had a stuck key somewhere or some dirt or hair stuck in the optical sensor of the mouse. Alternatively, have a look and see if there are other input devices still active. I have also forgotten to switch off my mouse at times and if this then gets stuck between some stuff in my bag, I get strange things happening on my laptop.

treadigraph
17th Sep 2021, 09:35
Stoopid question I never thought to ask before - in a crowded office, what stops wifi/bluetooth mice and keyboards interfering with each other? Whilst I guess the working range is just a couple of feet, presumably there is a limit on the number of frequencies available or something so there must be a chance of two devices coinciding? Ie I've no idea how they work... :} I had two computers at work, each with a wifi mouse...

Jhieminga
17th Sep 2021, 09:43
It is a channel and bandwidth issue, not a frequency issue, but they can interfere. One mouse is very much linked to its specific receiver though, and on Bluetooth they use a specific ID so that I cannot use my mouse to control someone else’s MacBook. At least, not without their knowledge and cooperation.

treadigraph
17th Sep 2021, 11:23
Thanks Jhieminga, think I understand that! I have two identical bluetooth speaker receivers linked to my laptop, upstairs and downstairs - only one can be use at a time sadly (used to have a master receiver/transmitter and four slave receivers which worked simultaneously so I could broadcast music wherever I chose in the house - this seems to be a rare thing and replacing it cheaply was impossible!)

Sorry for the drift...

Jhieminga
17th Sep 2021, 13:17
If they're the same brand and not too old.... check whether that brand offers the option to connect them both at the same time using their own software or an app (https://hdmitechnologies.com/how-to-connect-multiple-bluetooth-speakers-at-once/). Otherwise, SONOS appears to be very flexible, but not very cheap. I don't have any SONOS stuff myself as my house isn't big enough.

And back on topic....;)

LowNSlow
17th Sep 2021, 14:13
Deleted the wifi mouse and keyboard and connected wired mouse and wired keyboard. No change :(

Thanks for all the advice people but it's off to PC World for me!

NutLoose
17th Sep 2021, 16:00
Pc world cringe, check out Scan.co.uk The Queen uses them.

Loose rivets
17th Sep 2021, 22:21
I know you want at new computer, but the mouse thing . . . I'm looking at a naughty mouse on my desk. It's been there a year or so. It's a Logitech Laser mouse and was quite good, until it started spitting out pulses all by itself.

So, some software will respond to this stream, and other stuff won't. It would 'Pick' things uninvited and generally titter with glee at my angst.

cattletruck
18th Sep 2021, 14:00
I had a similar problem with a seldom used secondary work laptop mid last year. It wanted to apply the then latest Microsoft patches when I booted it up and after that the GUI went nuts with using either the mouse or the trackpad to scroll down. I put the laptop away and pulled it out few weeks later and there was another Microsoft patch for it. I installed it and the problem went away. I then researched the patch and found an obscure reference to this issue.

I believe the root cause of the problem is some registry setting that makes Windows go nuts with the pointing device, exactly what that registry setting is I don't know, best to just get the latest patches for Windows.

LowNSlow
20th Sep 2021, 12:02
Bought a new pc then sat down to clear all the stuff off the old one in preparation for reusing the RAM and the SSD and binning the disc drive.

Started it up and the damn thing is working fine. I don't know whether to be elated or angry.

Now going to take the new pc back......

treadigraph
20th Sep 2021, 13:55
Advance Lesson for Seasoned IT Users #1: before doing anything, sit down and have a cup of tea. Here endeth the first lesson...