Qantas 747-800s?

[HillpigSmytheIII]

Qantas 7550

QFA7550 / QF7550

Landing in 6 hours 20 minutes

HNL HONOLULU, HI -SYD SYDNEY, AUSTRALIA

took off from Daniel K Inouye Intl - HNL HST (6 minutes early) SATURDAY 14/08/2021 22:22 AEST

landing at Sydney – SYD FRIDAY 13/08/2021 16:55

Aircraft Type: BOEING 747-8 (quad-jet) (B748 (https://flightaware.com/live/aircrafttype/B748))
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[transition_alt]

Atlas Air 747 under the QF callsign. There’s 2 or 3 operated for Qantas

[HK144]

For the umpteenth time - it is one of two belonging to Atlas Air on wet lease to QANTAS freight.

[anson harris]

Qantas 7550

QFA7550 / QF7550

Landing in 6 hours 20 minutes

HNL HONOLULU, HI -SYD SYDNEY, AUSTRALIA

took off from Daniel K Inouye Intl - HNL HST (6 minutes early) SATURDAY 14/08/2021 22:22 AEST

landing at Sydney – SYD FRIDAY 13/08/2021 16:55

Aircraft Type: BOEING 747-8 (quad-jet) (B748 (https://flightaware.com/live/aircrafttype/B748))
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Uggh. 747-8. That's what it's called.

[TimmyTee]

These boys and girls must be getting paid a small fortune to do this flying!

[Keg]

No money in freight! :ok:

[Flingwing47]

Keep sleuthing Silver - the nod and wink gave it away - freight IS where the money is !!!

[morno]

These boys and girls must be getting paid a small fortune to do this flying!

If you’re talking about the pilots, then yes, a very very small fortune :bored:

Head on back to the spotters forum Hillpig

[blubak]

No money in freight! :ok:
Just saw an article yesterday where 2 744 converted freighters had been reactivated after 4 yrs or so in storage & sent for heavy maint before re entering service.
Somebody obviously thinks there are good $$$ to be made.

[B2N2]

Uggh. 747-8. That's what it's called.

Well technically it’s a BOEING - 747-87UF


Somebody obviously thinks there are good $$$ to be made.

Depending on the route freight prices have increased anywhere from 100-500%.
What a lot of people don’t realize is how much freight is shipped on passenger aircraft.
Any aircraft large enough and equipped for pallets or containers will carry cargo as cargo is more profitable then a pax with an Economy seat.
Just for the sake of easy math let’s say that every international passenger flight carries two tons of freight.
The lack of 70 passenger flights would equal a -8F filled to the brim.
Now think of how that cargo gets to its destination with an 70-80-% decrease in passenger flights.
https://www.iata.org/en/iata-repository/publications/economic-reports/airline-industry-economic-performance---april-2021---presentation/

[Duck Pilot]

Even a helicopter operator is considering converting a 747 to a freighter. No money in freight?

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-07-30/aviation-company-looks-to-buy-qantas-jumbo-to-help-fight-fires (https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-07-30/aviation-company-looks-to-buy-qantas-jumbo-to-help-fight-fires/100336454)

[Stationair8]

Don’t tell John Sharp but Qlink are going to run them across the REX routes!


No money in freight, somebody better tell Fedex and DHL!

[Keg]

Obviously need to explain the context of the ‘no money in freight’ comment again.

When Dixon was CEO and QF were facing a bit of a downturn- may have been SARS in ‘04- a question was asked of him (in a public forum if I recall correctly) as to why QF weren’t operating dedicated freighters. His response was “there’s no money in freight”.

Ever since that day whenever a QF crew see a freighter being loaded up chock a block, or hear a ‘Qantas’ (Atlas) call sign, or watch DHL or FedEx or Atlas cross the threshold in front of us, invariably someone who has been around more than a decade will exclaim ‘no money in freight’.

Yes, there’s money in freight. Truck loads of it. Qantas ignored it for quite a long time.

[Kitoro Kid]

Not always the operator making the big money in freight, who controls the revenue that is loaded on the aircraft is making the money, in this case QF, ACMI rates for operators can only increase to a certain level, a lot of long term ACMI contracts for operators have been contracted before COVID so they have not seen the benefit yet...

[romeocharlie]

These boys and girls must be getting paid a small fortune to do this flying!

Yeah, so much money that 60 pilots have resigned from Atlas in the last month. Heeeeaps.

[Climb150]

Yeah, so much money that 60 pilots have resigned from Atlas in the last month. Heeeeaps.

Admittedly most of those people have class dates with FedEx, United and JetBlue etc.

[B2N2]

Admittedly most of those people have class dates with FedEx, United and JetBlue etc.

…..and UPS.

[kikatinalong]

Years ago, on a layover somewhere or other, we (Atlas) were chatting over a couple of beers in the hotel bar with a BA crew. The Capt had the opinion that as they were a proper airline they wouldn't reduce themselves to operating freighters. Hiring us to do it instead.

kika

[maui]

Obviously need to explain the context of the ‘no money in freight’ comment again.

When Dixon was CEO and QF were facing a bit of a downturn- may have been SARS in ‘04- a question was asked of him (in a public forum if I recall correctly) as to why QF weren’t operating dedicated freighters. His response was “there’s no money in freight”.

Ever since that day whenever a QF crew see a freighter being loaded up chock a block, or hear a ‘Qantas’ (Atlas) call sign, or watch DHL or FedEx or Atlas cross the threshold in front of us, invariably someone who has been around more than a decade will exclaim ‘no money in freight’.

Yes, there’s money in freight. Truck loads of it. Qantas ignored it for quite a long time.

It goes back further than that. I recall making a submission to TAA/Australian, about a plan to boost utilisation of the dwindling DC9 fleet around 1988. I got the classic "there's no money in freight". I think Dixon was still in TAA sales at that time. Infected with the same poisonous idiocy as that other Strong clown.
Maui

[maui]

Further; many years later worked with an American colleague who related a story about having recently returned from 'NAM, received an offer to join, at about seniority #20, a small freight operation. Compensation was, initially, to include significant shares in said company. Knocked it back and regretted it ever since. Think Fedex. No money in freight, indeed!
Maui

[AerialPerspective]

[QUOTE=B2N2;11095169]Well technically it’s a BOEING - 747-87UF

Not so sure about that, didn't Boeing drop customer numbers before the 747-8 was rolled out????

I know it was sometime after the rollout of the 787 as the first lot had customer numbers but since then, they are all either -8 or -800.

[Turnleft080]

It goes back further than that. I recall making a submission to TAA/Australian, about a plan to boost utilisation of the dwindling DC9 fleet around 1988. I got the classic "there's no money in freight". I think Dixon was still in TAA sales at that time. Infected with the same poisonous idiocy as that other Strong clown.
Maui
In the late 70s and 80s I always thought IPEC (Interstate Parcel Express Company) would grow big. They went from DC-3s to Argosys to DC-9s. As a kid I painted up a IPEC B747 1:144 scale thinking they would expand. I though the opportunity was their at the time. Just change the Interstate with International. It just needed a investment from somewhere. At the time the MEL and SYD ramps were busy with Cargolux, Flying Tigers, Emery, Evergreeen 747s and ANZ flew DC-8 Export Cargo. As all have said no money in freight.

[Ken Borough]

The domestic mindset that infected Qantas was damaging as it didn’t have any understanding of international markets, including freight. The three combis (B74Ms) were always full of freight wherever they went. I don’t think the freight was carried as an act of charity!

[maui]

The domestic mindset that infected Qantas was damaging as it didn’t have any understanding of international markets, including freight. The three combis (B74Ms) were always full of freight wherever they went. I don’t think the freight was carried as an act of charity!

The domestic mindset came from Dixon and Strong. Both cultivated in TAA / Australian. Both with super egos and small minds.
They f@@%#&^# TAA and then did the same sort of work to the Q.
The industry is better off without them and would be far better off had they never been near the joint. IMHO
Maui

[Atlas Shrugged]

Yeah, so much money that 60 pilots have resigned from Atlas in the last month. Heeeeaps.

What's news about that? It's been happening for years......