Puma crewman harness info

[NIREP reader]

Hi all. I’m building a 1/32 Puma and I’m at the stage of making a crewman. I’m doing a cab from the early 90’s. Has anyone got information or photos of the method that the crewman was attached to the cab please, ie a belt or vest etc…

Also if a pax was also unseated was there a similar harness or a pax version if somebody was in the door way whilst flying.

Thanks for any help.

[charliegolf]

If late 80s will do...

Like this

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/164992651995?mkevt=1&mkcid=1&mkrid=710-53481-19255-0&campid=5338722076&toolid=10001

only khaki beige in colour, and a slightly different attachment clasp- double barrier to undo, rather than the pin.

Almost always attached to the ring on the MGB, giving enough length to get into the jump seat. An instructor would suit himself as to whether to use the MGB or a floor ring. Can honestly not remember a pax in a dispatcher's harness.

CG

[Fareastdriver]

Strange; In the seventies we stopped the crewmen doing that and made them attach it to the floor.

The reason was quite simple. A French Army Puma was carrying a jeep underslung when the bottom plate of the gearbox fractured. The jeep fell taking the gearbox ring and the crewman through the load hatch.

[ShyTorque]

A certain navigator ​​​​​​ crewman later managed to self induce a trip headfirst down the load hatch, thankfully without serious injury.

(That’s what happens when you tie yourself to the USL to your wrist , using a light line and then forget to undo it before you release the load).

[NutLoose]

Ahh but what fun watching a crewman going back and forth between doors and slowly wrapping his harness around the loadpole.

[NutLoose]

Crewmans harness back then was this colour


https://www.historicflyingclothing.com/en-GB/raf-aircraft-parts/raf-gun-turret-safety-harness/prod_16047

[ewe.lander]

Thought it was called a B48 Despatchers Harness?

USL Trg with the Army at Queens Parade back in the mid 70's, I disconnected myself to go down the hole and reset the SACRU. Pilot nagging me (S/L PD), and having asked me 3 times if I was sorted (NO) he got airborne to fly a circuit leaving his Crewman to take a bow and amuse the Infantry on the HLS......

[charliegolf]

Thought it was called a B48 Despatchers Harness?

USL Trg with the Army at Queens Parade back in the mid 70's, I disconnected myself to go down the hole and reset the SACRU. Pilot nagging me (S/L PD), and having asked me 3 times if I was sorted (NO) he got airborne to fly a circuit leaving his Crewman to take a bow and amuse the Infantry on the HLS......

Good dit, but what a w****r. (Him, not Ewe :ok:)

CG

[Q-SKI]

A certain navigator ​​​​​​ crewman later managed to self induce a trip headfirst down the load hatch, thankfully without serious injury.

(That’s what happens when you tie yourself to the USL to your wrist , using a light line and then forget to undo it before you release the load).

the same individual also briefed emplaning/deplaning drills the wrong way around, insisting troops NOT to use the step to get into the cab but ONLY use the step when getting out! The Captain couldn’t understand why it took so long to get loaded up 😂. With regards to the first incident apparently the captains first reaction was to pull in power but turned around to look back and saw said individuals legs sticking up into the cabin from the load hatch. It could’ve ended very badly but luckily it only resulted in a bruised ego.

[charliegolf]

Q-Ski, would I know this Rotogator?

CG

[lsh]

Q-Ski, would I know this Rotogator?

CG

Would you want to?!

lsh

[charliegolf]

Would you want to?!

lsh

Now I do lol!

CG

[NIREP reader]

Thanks very much everyone.

[Old-Duffer]

NIREP reader,

When you start on a 1/32nd Whirlwind 10, please let me know

Old Duffer

[NIREP reader]

NIREP reader,

When you start on a 1/32nd Whirlwind 10, please let me know

Old Duffer

shall do, although I think only the fixed wing WW2 is available, not 100% sure.

[Q-SKI]

I’m pretty sure it was after your time in RAFG but happy to DM 🤔

[Q-SKI]

Now I do lol!

CG

then no more need for me to elaborate 🤗

[NIREP reader]

Lastly the Ammo box. When fitted into its cradle, would the box lid be removed or left in the open position?.

[Old-Duffer]

AHhhhhhhhhhhh, it's a 1/32nd plastic kit - I misunderstood.

There is a very old kit of a piston engined S55 but that's at 1/48th scale. The Wessex is also 1/48 and far better. There is/was a 1/35 Chinook.

Old Duffer

[NutLoose]

There is a 1/32 wessex

both HC2 and HU5 kits


https://www.florymodels.org/fly-132-westland-wessex
https://www.modelhobbies.co.uk/fly-132-westland-wessex-hc2--32010-250031-p.asp

[NIREP reader]

There is a 1/32 wessex

both HC2 and HU5 kits


https://www.florymodels.org/fly-132-westland-wessex
https://www.modelhobbies.co.uk/fly-132-westland-wessex-hc2--32010-250031-p.asp

Done that, strangely enough as a 72 Sqn cab
https://forum.largescaleplanes.com/index.php?/topic/74977-westland-wessex-hc2-northern-ireland/

[NutLoose]

https://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/234995771-puma-gpmg-and-mount/

note the little rubber bump stops above the doors were also red, they were for the cowling to rest on when you were working on the engines. Also the hydraulic connections on the port side aft of the door were I think Red too.

[charliegolf]

Nutty, that's a yes for the Hyd covers.

CG

[NIREP reader]

Here’s a snippet at the moment. Still plenty to do
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51365836335_83266afd80_c.jpg6B2F6437-30F1-43CD-938B-765A809CBBD1

[diginagain]

Just remember that there's no requirement to display the boxes of 1B1T with the lids open...

[NIREP reader]

https://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/234995771-puma-gpmg-and-mount/

note the little rubber bump stops above the doors were also red, they were for the cowling to rest on when you were working on the engines. Also the hydraulic connections on the port side aft of the door were I think Red too.

cheers. I’ve actually painted the underside of the cowling rests, so will now paint the whole thing.

[charliegolf]

You realise it's much too clean to be an actual representation!:E

CG

[NIREP reader]

Yes:=, it’s not done yet. I’ve got the final weathering to do when it’s done so no more handling the kit. I’m in two minds as to whether to scratchbuild the Nightsun just to add more detail. Then the pole it’s going to be mounted on, I’m inclined to go with a carbon item this time rather than the go to acrylic/brass tube.

[NutLoose]

Seen these

Aerospatiale SA330 Puma Walkaround Gallery (http://www.grubbyfingersshop.com/walkaround_galleries/Aerospatiale%20SA330%20Puma%20Walkaround%20XW222%20RAF%20UAS %202017/content/index.html)

[NIREP reader]

Seen these

Aerospatiale SA330 Puma Walkaround Gallery (http://www.grubbyfingersshop.com/walkaround_galleries/Aerospatiale%20SA330%20Puma%20Walkaround%20XW222%20RAF%20UAS %202017/content/index.html)

yeah cheers NL, this one has been a great source of basic info. I’m sure I put thousands to the sites viewing figures over the last 1.5 years. Crazy to think I started this model on the 19 Apr 20. I’ve got a full build log (if you haven’t found it) which I’ll link when it’s completed.

CAA audit in work this week, so time to get the iPad out and wait for knock on the door:cool:

[NutLoose]

Good luck, just finished getting our new approvals sorted after 2 years of writing servicing schedules and the Expo to find it kept changing resulting in starting again. :(