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Cabair351
14th Jul 2021, 20:32
This won't be to everyone's taste but for those still looking for work it's not a bad stop-gap measure...

https://corporate.ryanair.com/news/ryanair-announces-2000-new-pilot-jobs/

Good luck to everyone!

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15th Jul 2021, 12:27
Apparently several hundred Qatar pilots applied already.....

FlyHigher
15th Jul 2021, 16:17
Interesting times ahead...

desert_dog
17th Jul 2021, 21:55
Being in the pool doesn't mean they'll all leave, but the fact that a significant number of people from QR seem to have applied there means they're looking for a new job, and it probably doesn't matter if they end up at RYR or elsewhere. The important signal for QR is that a lot of people want to leave.

Equally, it will be a signal for those interested to think twice about joining QR, because there must be a hell of a reasons to leave a well-paid five-star company, especially if hundreds of people are considering leave.

WrldWide
18th Jul 2021, 02:54
Previously well paid. The current increased workload at 30% realized reduction in flight allowances has negated the "well-paid" aspect.

bringbackthe80s
18th Jul 2021, 05:36
FlyHigher

Nothing, really nothing is interesting about the times awaiting us

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18th Jul 2021, 07:23
Not forgetting the -25% pay cut for re-hired guys and a pay freeze for 5 years.

dabz
19th Jul 2021, 04:30
Does anyone know what Ryan Air are paying for Capt and FO?

Also what benefits does the crew get besides their free meal and drink each flight?

Fired600
19th Jul 2021, 05:30
Free meal and drink? You are joking aren’t you. They have to bring all that themselves. Free O2 in a depressurisation if your lucky.

dabz
19th Jul 2021, 06:52
😅 I know, Michael OLeary is as tight as they come.

https://youtu.be/fSmnHbGMMok

airbourne
19th Jul 2021, 07:14
Apparently several hundred Qatar pilots applied already.....

Do you have a source for this outlandish claim or are you just making it up as you go along?

dabz
19th Jul 2021, 12:35
Ryanair is good for one thing and that's the 5/4 roster.

Cathay Pacific used to have a 5/4/3 rule.
5 days off after ultra long haul.
4 days off after long haul
3 days off after a normal regional flight.

As with all the perks of being a pilot, these lovely treats all get taken away as our management fly our careers into the toilet.

Curry Lamb
19th Jul 2021, 14:46
More like given away on a silver plate by a bunch of self serving buffoons on the AOA GC, in exchange for a London base and “life style requests”.

Ask them how that worked out :yuk:

dabz
19th Jul 2021, 15:53
W patterns that gave more days off. Funny thing tho is since pilots had more spare time they gave them more work ha! Own goal by the pilots!

Whether it's the companies or the pilots/cabin crew, we always end up losing everything from pay, leave, retirement, fostering lifestyle options, medical, schooling etc.. it all disappears eventually 😩

Klimax
19th Jul 2021, 22:01
desert_dog

Five Star being a corrupted purchase. This airline is known to dump you as a piece of camel crepe when diverted to some exotic place in China. My wife used to work at a 5 star hotel in Africa and she mentioned that the difference between a Qatar Crew and an Emirates Crew (both flight deck and cabin crew) was staggering. The Emirates Crew had style and the Qatar were just simple plebes! Perhaps things have changed, but that was reality a decade ago. Like it or not - recruit and retain quality or buy your way to the stars!

bringbackthe80s
20th Jul 2021, 06:21
what a sad comment

nimrodjoe
20th Jul 2021, 18:42
Emirates pilots are far too good for Ryanair.

krismiler
20th Jul 2021, 22:34
Living in your home country, sleeping in your own bed every night and keeping your marriage was enough incentive to have a small number of pilots make the move each year.

Now add in disgraceful treatment of retrentched staff and uncertainty over future employment, and a job with Ryanair doesn't seem so bad.

Whitemonk Returns
21st Jul 2021, 06:52
nimrodjoe

Narrator: No, they were not.

airbourne
21st Jul 2021, 07:04
nimrodjoe

Hahahah! Aw bless, you really believe that as well I bet!!!

SpamCanDriver
21st Jul 2021, 09:07
I'd ignore Nimrodjoe

The guy is a troll who obviously has nothing better to do

Anyway back to the subject,
I can believe a few hundred did apply to Ryanair. However I don't believe anyone who actually had access to this info, would post it on PPRUNE a few days after the applications opened.

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21st Jul 2021, 15:09
airbourne

Yes i do have a source. However, you will note that start by saying apparently, suggesting that I cannot confirm this information myself.

This is a pilot rumour network not a :mad: courtroom.

T54A
21st Jul 2021, 17:57
nimrodjoe

Too good-Certainly not
More experienced in international ops-Yes

airbourne
22nd Jul 2021, 07:26
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Apparently your post is BS!

username taken
22nd Jul 2021, 08:14
Happy to be proven wrong. Can you do that?

nimrodjoe
22nd Jul 2021, 11:34
SpamCanDriver

It’s sarcasm you plonker.

Ryanair + flydubai have proved to be much better options than Emirates despite what the locals say.

IcanCmyhousefromhere
22nd Jul 2021, 15:04
The video of MOL would be funny if he didn’t believe it. Okay, that video was some time ago now, but he probably still believes that 18 hours a week tosh.
5/4 ended up being 8/1 for me. Almost 3 days to recover following a week of earlies leaving me just one day of feeling like a normal human before it was back to work. I simply couldn’t get enough sleep and after many years I was turned into a zombie. Leaving was sweet.
When the 900 hours was written up no one ever thought it would be achieved. You will do it. Fine maybe if you are in your twenties but past 40? Forget it.
A good job for a couple of years perhaps but if you plan on doing it long time please do your due diligence.

Qatardeservesthebest
22nd Jul 2021, 15:52
Would love to do 900 a year again during daytime. Most guys spend over 1200 hours in the plane. limit is 900hrs and up to 900 in the bunk so a limit of 1800 a year in the plane. All during night, pattern is 7/1-7/1-7/2-7/3 orso. Ryanair was a piece if cake!

Klimax
23rd Jul 2021, 08:35
bringbackthe80s

The Truth is not always funny.

felixthecat
25th Jul 2021, 16:48
I think the comments about the long hours are valid, but equally depend on the person involved. Having flown the FR 900 a year (and in the many years I flew for them I was always within a few hours of the maximum, one time I had to position back on a trip because I didn’t have the annual hours to fly it) and also flown long haul for many years, I found the FR schedule far more tiring. I was tired long haul as well, but not as much. I know others who find the opposite true.

The biggest difference was the bully boy culture in FR, and the constant concealed threats. I never experienced that long haul, though what some of the poor guys are going through now is beyond belief. I don’t believe it is FR doing their crew favours, or suddenly becoming a caring company, it’s simply that they can’t get away with the crap that got pulled in Emirates with the mass redundancies.

airbourne
26th Jul 2021, 07:30
Happy to be proven wrong. Can you do that?

Not up to me to prove you wrong. It was you with your extensive post history that makes a sweeping statement with not a shred of proof to back it up.

The onus is on your sir with your wild rumours!

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27th Jul 2021, 07:01
It's a rumour network. I didn't think that this would require that I uploaded proof for each post. I heard something and passed it on. Believe it, don't believe it, I couldn't give a :mad:

airbourne
28th Jul 2021, 07:18
You obviously do if you keep banging on about it.