Will Avalon be cancelled?

[Lookleft]

Now that CHO of Victoria has decreed that the F1 and Moto GP are public health hazards will the Avalon Airshow be the next to go?

[Squawk7700]

It will be interesting to see.

At least you can run Avalon without international visitors, although defence crews would presumably be exempt anyway.

If all other states are green, he would have little justification to cancel it if the footy is still running.

[Stickshift3000]

Now that CHO of Victoria has decreed that the F1 and Moto GP are public health hazards will the Avalon Airshow be the next to go?

All personnel from the F1 and MotoGP race teams, support crews, and film crews would need to arrive from overseas. The F1 teams were given the option to undertake 2 weeks' quarantine in Melbourne prior to the race but wouldn't do so as it interfered with their race schedule.

The airshow can technically be conducted without any international personnel, though it may not be as interesting to some without an F-22/C5/Apache gunship or whatnot appearing. I'm still planning on going...

Edit - there we go: Avalon to go ahead Despite Grand Prix Cancelations - Australian Flying (https://www.australianflying.com.au/latest/avalon-to-go-ahead-despite-grand-prix-cancelations)

[Squawk7700]

It’s such a big risk for the organisers. We only need half a dozen mystery cases in Vic and there goes their million or two in seed money and another year for CASA permission :-(

[Lookleft]

Honnery went on to say that AMDA Foundation would guided by advice from public health authorities and would comply with directions from the federal and Victorian governments.

Thats the problem. The public health authorities have the power to just cancel an event with no accountablility. Like the Bryon Blues Festival and a music festival in Melbourne that was recently cancelled, they can have the best COVID plans on the planet but if the CHO starts to get weak at the knees then it is just shutdown. I hope the airshow goes ahead especially for the Centenary of the RAAF but as Sqwk stated it is a big risk. The bloke who started Dark MoFo made his money as a professional gambler but even he didn't like the odds of a random border closure.

[nojwod]

At this stage the advice from AMDA is that the show will be going ahead.

Obviously if a covid outbreak occurs then all bets are off but planning is still well underway.

I imagine the overseas presence will be very limited and the 110 anniversary of the RAAF will be doing its best to make up for any gaps in the program!

[PoppaJo]

The next airshow after this one is what just over a year later anyway.

Just wait a year. The majority of the show and displays isn’t even Aussie stuff anyway. Otherwise it will just be like a Point Cook airshow. I don’t imagine the ticket price will take a dive either.

[thunderbird five]

OF COURSE it will get cancelled. Just you wait and see.
And the Guvmin will say "WE didn't cancel it, the organisers did!"
Plan B - get your orders in to the print shop now for your life sized cardboard cutout likeness to be placed along the crowd line.

[junior.VH-LFA]

It will be interesting to see.

At least you can run Avalon without international visitors, although defence crews would presumably be exempt anyway.

If all other states are green, he would have little justification to cancel it if the footy is still running.

Why would you presume that? Defence has (unless due to exceptional need) been complying with the same rules everyone else has. Even foreign forces operating here have been subject to the same requirements.

[Squawk7700]

Why would you presume that? Defence has (unless due to exceptional need) been complying with the same rules everyone else has. Even foreign forces operating here have been subject to the same requirements.

Not exactly. When commercial flying schools were grounded, the RAAF kept on flying.

I highly doubt that overseas defence crews are on the waiting list of 30,000 civilians to get back into Australia!

[junior.VH-LFA]

Not exactly. When commercial flying schools were grounded, the RAAF kept on flying.

I highly doubt that overseas defence crews are on the waiting list of 30,000 civilians to get back into Australia!

The reference here was comparing with the 14 day quarantine periods and international arrivals, Defence has largely been following that, I can't think of too many examples of crews coming back into the country and then going straight home. Of course, as a whole, the organisation has kept flying.

[5th officer]

Now that CHO of Victoria has decreed that the F1 and Moto GP are public health hazards will the Avalon Airshow be the next to go?
It could go ahead if the AFL play a round at Avalon during the show and some Hollywood A listers turn up??

[TBM-Legend]

At this stage the advice from AMDA is that the show will be going ahead.

Obviously if a covid outbreak occurs then all bets are off but planning is still well underway.

I imagine the overseas presence will be very limited and the 110 anniversary of the RAAF will be doing its best to make up for any gaps in the program!


You may be a clairvoyant looking to the 110 anniversary of the RAAF so we can skip 10 years...

[SOPS]

It could go ahead if the AFL play a round at Avalon during the show and some Hollywood A listers turn up??

Im going to pay that comment 100 points!!!

[Squawk7700]

You may be a clairvoyant looking to the 110 anniversary of the RAAF so we can skip 10 years...

110 is correct and when Covid will be over.

My predictions have been spot on ever since I saw a meteorite crash to earth. Funny thing was, I predicted that, 15 seconds earlier. No bull and I don’t believe in any of that crap either.

[thunderbird five]

Speaking of clairvoyants, would you need to get an appointment?

[Squawk7700]

Speaking of clairvoyants, would you need to get an appointment?

No need as they would know you were coming.

Knock knock, who’s there? You tell me, you’re the clairvoyant.

[thunderbird five]

OF COURSE it will get cancelled. Just you wait and see.
And the Guvmin will say "WE didn't cancel it, the organisers did!"
Plan B - get your orders in to the print shop now for your life sized cardboard cutout likeness to be placed along the crowd line.


https://www.airshow.com.au/airshow2021/PUBLIC/media/media-releases.asp

[PoppaJo]

Avalon is like the Nevada desert in Summer. Not an ideal time for the event. Having a few hundred thousand people out there for a few days in 45C heat is quite dangerous. I have a screenshot on my phone from a turnaround in November many years ago. 47C. I had passengers struggling to even walk to the aircraft.

Also the fire bombers are quite active at that time of year unless they base them elsewhere.

[Lookleft]

The answer is no-thread closed.

[Turnleft080]

The answer is no-thread closed.
Just before you close. The airshow whenever it's on next, has to be big. As big as Oshkosh, Farnborough, RIAT or all 3 put together.
Money is not an issue, been printing it by the truck loads in the last 18 months.

[Squawk7700]

You mean the answer is “yes”, thread closed.

For those that haven’t yet seen, it was cancelled today.

[cattletruck]

Rescheduled back to the normal time for 2023. Difficult decision by the organisers but I think a sensible one under the circumstances.

Here's to hoping for some normality in 2023.

[Lookleft]

Absolutely correct S7700. I think I was channeling my inner Jim from the Vicar of Dibley.. "no,no,no,no...yes"