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RAFEngO74to09
29th Jun 2021, 23:30
Guess who - before you press the link !
Welcome to My World! - Her Majesty's Top Gun (hermajestystopgun.com) (https://hermajestystopgun.com/welcome-to-my-world/)
West Coast
29th Jun 2021, 23:44
He’s the gift that keeps on giving. He certainly seems to get folks all bunched up here on the prune.
SASless
30th Jun 2021, 01:46
Is it "Penis Envy" that triggers folks?
India Four Two
30th Jun 2021, 03:32
Guess who - before you press the link !
10/10 for me! :)
I didn't read beyond the title. Seriously Sharkey, aren't you embarrassed?
megan
30th Jun 2021, 05:39
Is it "Penis Envy" that triggers folks?Tall poppy syndrome or inter service rivalry perhaps. Reading his site he seems to own up to his errors, be interested to learn what has earnt him such derision on Pprune.
Reading the Nickname thread I found a less than flattering side to the UK military, not some thing I came across prior.
He does seem somewhat confused in his reasoning in his post.
In paragraph 5 he reports the view of USMC friends that the Falklands was the last conventional war that will be fought, and affirms his own belief/hope that that is true. Then in paragraphs 9-11 he abuses Lord Bach and AVM Stirrup for saying essentially the same thing to the HoC Defence Committee.
He then extols the power of the RN carriers as a strategic weapon without defining in what circumstances he can envisage their being used.
NutLoose
30th Jun 2021, 09:10
Good to see he managed to slot in his RAF bashing..
https://hermajestystopgun.com/five-decades-of-wokery/
ex-fast-jets
30th Jun 2021, 12:15
Ignore him.
He will love all the angst he is causing.
Don't give him the oxygen he needs.
olster
30th Jun 2021, 12:28
I appreciate that Sharkey is a controversial figure but I do agree with him about one thing. Ward refers to John Nott as having no idea about maritime warfare. I remember with draw dropped incredulity listening to Nott in 1982 announcing on live UK tv the sinking of a British warship but he claimed unable to reveal at that moment which one. The sheer callousness of saying that and thereby making every task force relative sick with worry was an incompetence at an off the scale level. Utterly useless. I do not know Sharkey Ward although one of my best friends was on the same squadron but I have great respect for his service. I also think he was correct in his campaign to retain the Harrier.
SASless
30th Jun 2021, 13:12
Megan....the forum is RAF centric....and anytime there is real or perceived slight of the RAF in any manner causes immediate raised. hackles.
This notion of there never being a "conventional" War amuses me....as how does one know what will happen in the future?
Who would have guessed there would have been the Falklands contest or Gulf Wars One and Two?
One argument for that notion of there not being another "conventional" War is the UK Military has shrunk to a size it is no longer able to present sufficient force to be able to engage in a "conventional" War.
The USMC is altering its strategy it seems.....as it is doing away with its Main Battle Tanks and going all in for "lighter" forces.
Ninthace
30th Jun 2021, 13:30
I was told by a VSO at Strike Command, who was trying to get me to civilianise more posts to save money, that there was not going to be another war so I did not need so many uniformed personnel working for me.
On my next tour, I was having to provide a steady supply people to go and earn their GSM (now OSM).
FODPlod
30th Jun 2021, 13:45
Sharkey always succeeds in touching nerves certain people would rather not have. :*
West Coast
30th Jun 2021, 18:01
Megan....the forum is RAF centric....and anytime there is real or perceived slight of the RAF in any manner causes immediate raised. hackles.
This notion of there never being a "conventional" War amuses me....as how does one know what will happen in the future?
Who would have guessed there would have been the Falklands contest or Gulf Wars One and Two?
One argument for that notion of there not being another "conventional" War is the UK Military has shrunk to a size it is no longer able to present sufficient force to be able to engage in a "conventional" War.
The USMC is altering its strategy it seems.....as it is doing away with its Main Battle Tanks and going all in for "lighter" forces.
Indeed. The Marine Corps is going back to its amphibious roots.
SASless
30th Jun 2021, 19:11
What happened to the over-the-horizon amphibious assault strategy?
Tell us the tale of the high speed replacement Amtrac...how's that program coming along?
The Navy is wanting to keep the fleet further from shore....which presents serious problems for the OTH concept.
The Osprey has matured and the LCAC's are living up to their end of the bargain.
How does this all play out in the future....assuming a contested amphibious assault some what akin to the Falklands?
The Royal Navy, Royal Marines, and the British Army had a tough fight on their hands as they were engaged in combat at the far reach of the realm....and very end of the supply line.
As the Chinese are trying to make the Pacific into an area they intend to control....will there be future campaigns to engage in amphibious assaults on Island....natural or man-made?
biscuit74
30th Jun 2021, 21:26
"Megan....the forum is RAF centric....and anytime there is real or perceived slight of the RAF in any manner causes immediate raised. hackles."
How true, SASless, and how petty it all seems. I'd have hoped for better from professionals.
Captain Biggles 101
30th Jun 2021, 22:42
This guy is a legend having read his book and heard his account of his experiences in the Falklands. Nobody that hasn't been there, seen it and done it first hand real hot has a right to comment. We owe him great gratitude for what he did down there. Respect where it is due.
ExAscoteer2
30th Jun 2021, 23:21
Didn't Mogwi score more victories in the Falklands than that prat?
What difference does it make as to who scored what, all served and contributed, but since you seem to make so much of such,
Ward 3 (Pucara, C-130, Dagger)
Morgan 3.5 (Puma, two Mirages, Agusta 109) - as recorded in his book, though it seems the Mirages were actually Skyhawks and one of the helicopters was given as a shared, presumably the Puma given the circumstances - was seen to crash after he had flown over the top of it, loss of control caused by vortices it was assumed, no shooting involved. It made him the highest scorer.
SASless
1st Jul 2021, 02:42
We have to have Heroes.....so the rest of us can sit on the kerb and applaud when they march by.
Megan, one of the problems Sharkey has is the inability to realise that the Falklands campaign was a joint service operation, conducted from the RN Task Force. It was not a Royal Navy operation.
He’s not well, clearly, and this is his way of coping with it.
He has a drum to bang so let him bang it.
212man
1st Jul 2021, 09:36
He’s not well, clearly, and this is his way of coping with it.
Whilst he has been ranting for years, I imagine his son committing suicide 20 months ago will not have improved his perspectives on life. https://www.pprune.org/military-aviation/615753-kris-ward-rn.html
SASless
1st Jul 2021, 12:57
Certainly the Army and Marines along with the SAS and SBS and the RAF with its one Chinook and other helicopters played a small role in all of it one would suppose.
Yomping many miles at a time then mounting attacks on fortified positions under artillery fire did seem to have some effect on the outcome.
Very much a joint effort by all who were involved right down to the Matelots in the engine rooms of the ships and crews of the Victors and Vulcans.
A lot of good Men from all the Services were killed, maimed, and wounded in the effort.
War is a terrible and messy thing that never goes according to plan as the enemy has a way of ruining the very best plan crafted.
As to the fellow making the noise....analyze what he has to say and see if there is some merit to any of it and use that part of his utterances.
The rest can be overlooked or ignored.
Certainly there were Lessons Learned out of that conflict that should be considered even yet today.
ShyTorque
1st Jul 2021, 13:37
Certainly there were Lessons Learned out of that conflict that should be considered even yet today.
For example, don’t keep most of the RAF helicopter assets on board and below the flight deck of the biggest and most valuable target in the conflict! Despite the pleas of the crews to get them flown away and working, when the Atlantic Conveyor was attacked and went down, only one Chinook escaped.
SASless
1st Jul 2021, 13:43
Imagine the loss of logistical support that one tragedy caused.
BN soldiered on like she was built to do....and should be preserved upon her end of service with the RAF.
As a dyed in the wool Chinook Pilot....I watched that with much appreciation.
I also admired the Airborne Troopers fixing bayonets and engaging the Argies in close quarters combat and prevailing.
A lot of heroism was taken for granted and was certainly not rewarded well enough.
hunterboy
1st Jul 2021, 18:39
Blimey, I thought it was a spoof site……but it’s for real? As someone that has read Sharkey’s book and certainly could believe a lot of what was claimed in it, he doesn’t seem to be doing himself or his cause any favours.
212man
1st Jul 2021, 18:50
BN soldiered on like she was built to do....and should be preserved upon her end of service with the RAF.
Well, there’s a space reserved in the RAF museum - they have the forward section of a CH47D painted to replicate her. 43 years and going strong with 4 DFCs
ExAscoteer2
1st Jul 2021, 18:56
What difference does it make as to who scored what, all served and contributed, but since you seem to make so much of such,
It makes a difference because the pillock is claimed to be the UK's 'Top Gun' when he clearly isn't.
FODPlod
1st Jul 2021, 21:32
Didn't Mogwi score more victories in the Falklands than that prat?
It makes a difference because the pillock is claimed to be the UK's 'Top Gun' when he clearly isn't.
Calling a recipient of the DSC and the AFC a "prat" and a "pillock" may boost your self-esteem but says more about you than about Sharkey.
This thread is heading in the same direction as previous travesties that have descended into a series of puerile ad hominems.
Senior Pilot
2nd Jul 2021, 01:26
Calling a recipient of the DSC and the AFC a "prat" and a "pillock" may boost your self-esteem but says more about you than about Sharkey.
This thread is heading in the same direction as previous travesties that have descended into a series of puerile ad hominems.
And with that succinct summary, we say farewell to another Sharky thread 🤔 😢