I notice the original artwork for the Corgi Jaguar is on sale

[NutLoose]

It's on a well known auction site, but I have copied an image over below, just a question, I have watched the film after seeing this, did the original Jaguars not have the guns fitted? as the one on the film and the image hasn't, or was it some weight reduction scheme for the landing though that would screw about with the C of G? just a query as an ex later jag guy..


https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1400x928/s_l1600_e016b0379b1825ba4768e71860cc222c92e3f9bc.jpg

[Cole Burner]

Gr1 was fitted with two guns even before the laser nose arrived.

Edited to say that having watched it you are right about the aircraft in the video - BAE mod perhaps?
Early recruitment poster:

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/684x1024/jagpic_5947ff8cdc9595bf35c74903d0a7c0969500a267.jpg

[Timelord]

I seem to remember that this publicity stunt was very early in the aircraft’s life so maybe it was a development aircraft without the guns?

[LOMCEVAK]

XX109 was S2, the second S model built and flown. I flew S1 a few times but cannot remember whether or not it had the guns fitted. I will check some pictures that I have and update this post.

It is quite possible that S2 had the gun barrel ports faired over and flight test instrumentation fitted in the gun bays.

[ORAC]

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/949x753/image_d46c870123e93f83b5ff32d4bf1e6d21b7962213.jpeg

[Less Hair]

AA35416 BAC Sepecat Jaguar GR1 (http://www.monkbarmodelshop.co.uk/corgi/52728-aa35416-bac-sepecat-jaguar-gr1.html)

I seem to remember having had the Jag from Dinky Toys.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/254749063468 (https://images.app.goo.gl/dJjHP9dpZj73Kw1Y9)

[NutLoose]

That’s the toy, this was the collectors version, see

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/284330448669?hash=item42336a571d:g:-aEAAOSw5clgxful

[Cat Techie]

S2 was never a flyer in RAF service. One of the 3 original GRs used for BAC / BAE flying trials. XX108 stayed in BAE's stable its entire flying career (Mk 106 Engine trials was its last major project before retirement). S3 was also used but was passed onto RAF service not long into the types service. BAE finished with XX109 in the early 80's just as RAFG was starting to go to Tornado and Jag drawdown was started. Was so behind the curve on service mods and with other frames being retired, was taken to Colt and there it became the weapons load trainer and local rob plane for the odd bit. With GR3 XZ367 becoming available, XX109 was retired from maintenance frame use and "Loaned" to The City of Norwich Aviation Museum, where in time the Museum purchased it off the MoD.

[RAFEngO74to09]

Here are the videos of the M55 publicity stunt:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VeBZ3xbgN_M

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAVDOBWtBuU

[Krystal n chips]

AA35416 BAC Sepecat Jaguar GR1 (http://www.monkbarmodelshop.co.uk/corgi/52728-aa35416-bac-sepecat-jaguar-gr1.html)

I seem to remember having had the Jag from Dinky Toys.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/254749063468 (https://images.app.goo.gl/dJjHP9dpZj73Kw1Y9)

FWIW, Corgi produced a " Limited Edition " ( 1500 to be precise) 1:72 model in what they term "decommissioned livery" as in 6 Sqdn's Tiger paint scheme. I actually have one, albeit still pristine in the box.

[NutLoose]

Errrm I think you will find the JAGUAR was painted in a JAGUAR scheme not a Tiger one... slight Typo there :)

Here is one or two I took earlier.




https://live.staticflickr.com/4470/24094780178_1315ef474f_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/CHb3Gs)Spotty Jaguar (https://flic.kr/p/CHb3Gs) by Tony Taylor (https://www.flickr.com/photos/142550108@N08/)

https://live.staticflickr.com/901/41596620775_af568eb54c_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/26nKy9P)Jaguar pilot close up (https://flic.kr/p/26nKy9P) by Tony Taylor (https://www.flickr.com/photos/142550108@N08/)

[Tartiflette Fan]

FWIW, Corgi produced a " Limited Edition " ( 1500 to be precise) 1:72 model in what they term "decommissioned livery" as in 6 Sqdn's Tiger paint scheme. I actually have one, albeit still pristine in the box.

Of course it is, Sheldon.

[MPN11]

Impressively short take-off run in that M55 video. What went wrong subsequently? More that 10 minutes fuel loaded? 😀

[NutLoose]

Someone that was involved (a plumber) told me they were dummy lightweight bombs, whether that is right though I do not know.

[sharpend]

The first tranche of Jaguars did not have guns; certainly the ones I flew in 1964 did not. I understand also that during the Aden gun trials the exhaust caused some damage resulting from an explosion in the gun bay. Think also that the shell cases hit the underside of the aeroplane, but maybe my memory of 47 years ago is weak :)

[LOMCEVAK]

Jaguar first flight 8 September 1968 ....

[k3k3]

I went into the wrong HAS on 20 Sqn in 1978 and found a very early Jaguar, it had a short nose gear door, splitters in front of the intakes, and simple cockpit instruments that wouldn't have looked out of place in a Hunter, in pride of place was a centrally mounted large grey/black artificial horizon.

I vaguely remember the airbrakes didn't have the perforations, but I wouldn't swear to that.

[NutLoose]

I wonder if that was the one used for “the bomb” upload training, wasn’t there when I was.

[G-ARZG]

Comment from Dunsfold at the time was along the lines of 'what, you mean they had to close the motorway??'

[Krystal n chips]

Errrm I think you will find the JAGUAR was painted in a JAGUAR scheme not a Tiger one... slight Typo there :)


" I wondered who'd be the first to spot that ". ..cough !

[NutLoose]

:E. it’s easily done, I have myself.

[Asturias56]

look at the flares in the first video posted above :eek::eek::eek:

[Cat Techie]

look at the flares in the first video posted above :eek::eek::eek:

They are bad indeed. Then again it was the age. Flares later in the Cats life were fortunately reserved for landing.

[Cat Techie]

I went into the wrong HAS on 20 Sqn in 1978 and found a very early Jaguar, it had a short nose gear door, splitters in front of the intakes, and simple cockpit instruments that wouldn't have looked out of place in a Hunter, in pride of place was a centrally mounted large grey/black artificial horizon.

I vaguely remember the airbrakes didn't have the perforations, but I wouldn't swear to that.
It could have been S07 (XW563) but the instruments sound more like a French "A" prototype (A04). The British Prototypes had the NAVWASS so should be similar to a GR1.

[Cat Techie]

Jaguar first flight 8 September 1968 ....

Project didn't even exist in 1964. ;)

Know Sharpend means 1974.

[Cat Techie]

FWIW, Corgi produced a " Limited Edition " ( 1500 to be precise) 1:72 model in what they term "decommissioned livery" as in 6 Sqdn's Tiger paint scheme. I actually have one, albeit still pristine in the box.

Wish I did. Corgi 0 - 1 Wife. Had to pay for the thing as well. Copyright doesn't exist to Corgi. They picked the right side for the box image mind. :)