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ArgyleL
29th May 2021, 14:49
I got my private pilots licence back in 1999 and remember a section of the CARs that mentioned the responsibilities of reporting an invading 'hoarde'... but I can't find it any more. Has that section been repealed? Or is my memory really bad and it was never located in the CARs in the first place?

Unfortunately I have not been flying in many years and was hoping someone could point me in the right direction!

+TSRA
30th May 2021, 16:43
Oh man, did you ever send me down a rabbit hole this morning! You are not wrong, such a report did (and does) exit. But because it's not strictly an aviation report, it's not in the CARS. Heck, it's not even in the CASRs. The information was located in the AIP.

It is known as a CIRVIS (Communication Instructions for Reporting Vital Intelligence Sightings) Report, and the list used to include things like invading armies or unidentified surface warships and submarines.

You can find the reporting information in AIP (https://www.navcanada.ca/en/2enr_eng.pdf)Section 1.14.2.1. The AIM (https://tc.canada.ca/sites/default/files/2021-03/aim_2021-1_access_e.pdf) (the domestic version of the AIP) only references CIRVIS reports once in section 1.1.2.1.

What you and I learned was probably closer to this (https://www.nsa.gov/Portals/70/documents/news-features/declassified-documents/ufo/janap_146.pdf).

ArgyleL
30th May 2021, 18:32
That is amazing! Thank you!!

ShyTorque
30th May 2021, 21:36
What is a “hoarde”?

Is it something between buried treasure and a load of “riff-raff”, or just something written in olde Englishe?

340drvr
31st May 2021, 11:55
What is a “hoarde”?

Is it something between buried treasure and a load of “riff-raff”, or just something written in olde Englishe?

The invaders have frost all over their beards and eyebrows. It's cold in Canada.

albatross
19th Jun 2021, 16:46
Ah the good old DEWIZ and ADIZ rules.