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dysslexicgod
27th May 2021, 23:55
Assuming all other Victorian lockdown requirements are met, would a two hour private flight departing and arriving at the same airstrip be considered legitimate exercise or education?

tail wheel
28th May 2021, 01:02
Have you asked the Victorian Health Department or whoever regulates travel during a lockdown?

Air Services Australia may also know the official position on such flights?

I suspect a departure and arrival at the same airport, with no intermediate stops, would be acceptable, but accepting the many varied PPRuNe opinions as official Government policy may leave you with a serious problem you probably don't need.

UnderneathTheRadar
28th May 2021, 01:17
Surely you've answered your own question? A PRIVATE flight couldn't be considered one of the 5 reasons to leave home under even the most optimistic interpretation? By the same logic I could jump into my car, drive a lap of Victoria and back home again - think a policeman is going to buy that one?

compressor stall
28th May 2021, 01:51
Are you remaining within 5km of your home and below FL164?

Squawk7700
28th May 2021, 01:57
Assuming all other Victorian lockdown requirements are met, would a two hour private flight departing and arriving at the same airstrip be considered legitimate exercise or education?

Not for exercise or education, but certainly if it was a test flight after fitting a new engine or performing works as part of your employment as some kind of aircraft mechanic or similar, assuming you are following Covid-safe work practices.

Is a professional YouTuber able to fly privately for 2 hours and even land somewhere…? that’s something I’d be interested to hear if it was legit, just for interests sake really.

cattletruck
28th May 2021, 11:09
Private flight in Victoria: Just fer-get-it (at least for 6 more days).

Hopefully we'll be out of this soon, after which you may wish to consider moving to another state, or country where the drinking water fluoridation levels are much lower.

flightleader
28th May 2021, 12:10
If the airfield with 5km from your home to start with?

Squawk7700
28th May 2021, 12:12
If the airfield with 5km from your home to start with?

If you can prove that you are flying for employment, education, exercise, food or a vaccination then go for it!

Checkboard
28th May 2021, 20:20
Keeping current IS education, isn't it?

lucille
28th May 2021, 20:40
If you can prove that you are flying for employment, education, exercise, food or a vaccination then go for it!

Flying for food. Pretty much what some in the profession have been forced to do of late.

Lookleft
29th May 2021, 00:06
If you can prove that you are flying for employment, education, exercise, food or a vaccination then go for it!

And if the coppers meet you on arrival back at your departure point just have a screen print of this thread and I am sure they will apologise for the inconvenience and drive away.

Ixixly
29th May 2021, 07:48
And if the coppers meet you on arrival back at your departure point just have a screen print of this thread and I am sure they will apologise for the inconvenience and drive away.

That and a copy of your rights as a "Sovereign Citizen" should have you totally covered!

Squawk7700
29th May 2021, 09:17
That and a copy of your rights as a "Sovereign Citizen" should have you totally covered!

… or just refuse to answer their questions and drive off. Too easy! What could possibly go wrong?? If you haven’t committed a crime, you don’t even have to speak to them.

Ixixly
29th May 2021, 09:36
… or just refuse to answer their questions and drive off. Too easy! What could possibly go wrong?? If you haven’t committed a crime, you don’t even have to speak to them.

Ehhh this one is actually yes and no, there are a few other reasons they can ask you specific questions you have to answer, if in doubt check the below link, it's pretty good as a resource and generally speaking so long as you're cooperative they'll let you go quickly and without any hassles. They're not like that CASA mob :}
https://www.legalaid.vic.gov.au/find-legal-answers/police-powers-and-your-rights/speaking-to-police

Aussie Bob
29th May 2021, 10:29
Blimey, you folk,

If I lived in Vicco (and thank goodness I don't) and I felt like going flying, I believe as a CPL I have every right. Every flight I ever do is related to my work as a pilot, period, end of story. If I am going to the airport I am going to work. I am self employed, here's my ASIC, here's my CPL, move on copper.

Good luck you blokes and blokettes :-)

Squawk7700
29th May 2021, 10:34
Ehhh this one is actually yes and no, there are a few other reasons they can ask you specific questions you have to answer, if in doubt check the below link, it's pretty good as a resource and generally speaking so long as you're cooperative they'll let you go quickly and without any hassles. They're not like that CASA mob :}
https://www.legalaid.vic.gov.au/find-legal-answers/police-powers-and-your-rights/speaking-to-police



Giving your name and addressThe police do not have the right to demand your name or address without a reason. Generally, a police officer can only ask you to give your name and address if they believe you:


have committed an offence (https://www.legalaid.vic.gov.au/find-legal-answers/legal-glossary#offence)
are about to commit an offence.



This reminds me of earlier today when I watched the old news articles about Ben Buckley. He was talking about the CASA regs that said they can take away your licence if they "think" that you are going to break the rules!

SBrommers
1st Jun 2021, 06:45
If departing a private strip I would just do it. Essential safety checks to stay current blah blah

Lookleft
1st Jun 2021, 23:36
To all those brave Sir Robins who would just tell the fuzz to f off and its my right as a pilot to go wherever I want whenever I want it looks like you might get another 7 days to turn your brave rhetoric into action. Let us know how you get on.

Lookleft
26th Jun 2021, 07:03
Well someone gave it a go and it looks like Coppers 1, Sovereign Citizens 0

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-26/three-nsw-residents-arrested-after-flying-into-coober-pedy/100246682

SBrommers
27th Jun 2021, 06:01
To fly from Sydney to Coober and back via other states is not what the original poster asked.

Capt Fathom
27th Jun 2021, 06:39
You’re right.
It does however highlight the pitfalls if you don’t check first!

engine out
27th Jun 2021, 08:03
Plenty of planes flying around in Sydney basin today on first day of lock down. I guess they class it as education.

Squawk7700
27th Jun 2021, 22:30
Plenty of planes flying around in Sydney basin today on first day of lock down. I guess they class it as education.

They initially allowed that in Victoria but then the government clarified things and canned it later on. Weill be interesting to see what they land on, especially given that the lockdown will be more than one week.