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NIREP reader
26th May 2021, 14:28
Hi all, I’m looking for information of photos of Pumas’ that would have been in NI during this period. Would anybody recollect how many cabs were out there at one time and I assume all were 33 Sqn provided cabs on a rotation basis. This is research for a modelling project that’s coming to an end where I make a decision on which one to finish it off as.

anything would be helpful. I’ve read the SHFNI thread but info is still wanting.

NutLoose
26th May 2021, 15:56
Or 230 Sqn

NIREP reader
26th May 2021, 17:45
When I’ve googled 230 it says they’re at Gutersloh and reformed it Aldergrove in 92. Would 230 have supplied cabs before the relocation?

26th May 2021, 17:52
'Nobody heeds them, nobody needs them, **** *** 33 /230':) from the SH songbook ISTR :)

NutLoose
26th May 2021, 17:53
14 October 1980 30 April 1992 RAF Gütersloh, West-Germany Dets. at Belize and Northern Ireland


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No._230_Squadron_RAF

charliegolf
26th May 2021, 18:13
14 October 1980 30 April 1992 RAF Gütersloh, West-Germany Dets. at Belize and Northern Ireland


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No._230_Squadron_RAF

I was a crewman on 33 Sqn 81-83 (only I airframe in NI at a time*, Sssh:E); and 230 Sqn (Gut) 83-86. On the latter tour, I don't recall a single pilot or crewman being detached to NI.

CG

*of course only the creme de la creme operators were sent on that det. Go on, ask me!:}

ShyTorque
26th May 2021, 19:46
I was detached to NI for five months of 1991 to fly the Puma. I was not really on 33 or 230 squadron at the time, because in theory I was on a fixed wing tour...a strange setup, but I’m fairly sure that the aircraft were on 33’s inventory. Things were a little complicated due to many airframes being in sunnier climes...

H Peacock
26th May 2021, 19:59
The Puma fleet was effectively managed between 4 locations: Odiham, Gütersloh, Aldergrove & Belize. At the latter 2 locations they were allocated to 72 Sqn D Flt, and 1563 Flt; not 33 Sqn nor 230 Sqn.

I can’t recall the exact allocation, but believe there were 6 or so in NI and 4 in Belize. The main serviceing all being completed at Odiham with ac ferried between as and when!

Aircrew all came from either 33 Sqn or 230 Sqn, being Detached to NI or Belize, apart from the Flt Cdrs. OC D Flt (72 Sqn) was a posting as was OC 1563 Flt.

huge72
26th May 2021, 20:33
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/2000x1613/72_sqn_aldergrove_761377759d22a76ac4ea76ff112b16454c33213c.j pg
This was the hand over of 72 in 1990 from Wg Cdr F****** to Wg S***** There were 3 Pumas on D Flt at the time.

Herod
26th May 2021, 21:51
Aah. A picture of some REAL helicopters, with a few interlopers.

PUP
26th May 2021, 22:11
230 definitely had a det starting in late '87 and running for IIRC a few months into '88

PUP

NIREP reader
27th May 2021, 07:56
Thanks everyone for your contribution. I actually first went there in 88 although not a squadron member and I wish I’d taken more of an interest. Shocking memory sometimes, probably from a life time sniffing glue making models.

now which cab markings to do.....

Steve.

NutLoose
27th May 2021, 08:58
https://www.ulsteraviationsociety.org/puma-hc1

NIREP reader
27th May 2021, 09:04
https://www.ulsteraviationsociety.org/puma-hc1

cheers NL got that one.

ShyTorque
27th May 2021, 09:29
I flew “Trembling Two” XW222 many times on 230 (it wasn’t known as per the paint marking it now wears). I also have her green Decometer right here...with a serviceable label stating that it was removed as part of ‘SEM 205’ in 1995.

NutLoose
27th May 2021, 09:30
Don't forget how dirty they get down the tailboom from exhaust and the black bodge tape on the nose as the nose bay used to leak and the avionics are in there

https://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/74945-sud-aviation-sa330-puma/

NutLoose
27th May 2021, 09:31
I flew “Trembling Two” XW222 many times on 230 (it wasn’t known as per the paint marking it now wears). I also have her green Decometer right here...with a serviceable label stating that it was removed as part of ‘SEM 205’ in 1995.


I have the end fitting of a Collective with the landing light controls, jettison etc, working on building a PC collective with it.

NutLoose
27th May 2021, 10:14
Notice the tape and the dirt



https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48430373397_e401cbe40b_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2gMCjHT)XW224 - Westland Puma HC1 - No. 33 Squadron, RAF (https://flic.kr/p/2gMCjHT) by Karl Drage (https://www.flickr.com/photos/karladrage/), on Flickr

NIREP reader
27th May 2021, 10:30
Gotcha, this is going to be one dirty bird:rolleyes:

NutLoose
27th May 2021, 11:40
I flew “Trembling Two” XW222 many times on 230 (it wasn’t known as per the paint marking it now wears). I also have her green Decometer right here...with a serviceable label stating that it was removed as part of ‘SEM 205’ in 1995.

But have you got??? Matching shorts available :D

https://www.merchgift.com/products/kalt2205bc09?fbclid=IwAR294J5BjVGFmoe1kTyNWMnc5odR7Ehb8G7jsz E4ZmjOGhDWSyoG5OGUiww


https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/720x720/0x720_1622018303357_eb675ee754138dda9d760161149f12579da8c8c0 .jpg



https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/720x720/0x720_1621658649988_ba728727d35bfa04605734b9730ec97300cf6066 .jpg

Fareastdriver
27th May 2021, 15:53
I was teetering between staying in the RAF in 1977. Come 1978 XW209 returned from Marigne with the polivalent modification. It arrived in Norway to replace XW 205 which tragically crashed near Bodo. After we returned to Odiham my mind was made up.

The officers Mess had imposed a cash only policy in the bar and I could not bring myself to fly such ugly helicopters.

I then flew presentable S330Js , sleek S76s and not so sleek 332Ls.

ShyTorque
27th May 2021, 19:24
Nutty, even my poor fashion taste doesn’t stoop as low as that! :yuk:

Q-SKI
4th Jun 2021, 09:04
'Nobody heeds them, nobody needs them, **** *** 33 /230':) from the SH songbook ISTR :)

Blast from the past👌👍😆

oldbeefer
4th Jun 2021, 10:57
'Nobody heeds them, nobody needs them, **** *** 33 /230':) from the SH songbook ISTR :)


I actually wrote the two verses for that!

4th Jun 2021, 17:51
I actually wrote the two verses for that! And you were a WIWOP ISTR:ok::) That song was best delivered by George Blackie (RIP) as an ex- WIWOP when he was on 72 Sqn:ok: