Bamboo Airways T&C

[Qbix]

Anyone can share what the T&C are presently? B787 fleet. Thanks

[RockyMntAV8R]

Also for the A320. Thanks.

[ILS13]

How about the E190?
I was supposed to have my interview yesterday, at 3:30am Central time, however right as I was ready, I got a Skype message from them, at 3:35am, saying they need to cancel because they're not ready. Not a good first impression if you ask me.

I've been trying to pester them about some T&C's, but so far, nothing. Haven't heard good things about the pay though.

[RockyMntAV8R]

I am hesitant to apply without knowing what the T&C’s are. I have not heard positive information but at this point it’s all conjecture. When it comes to contract jobs I always prefer to use a reputable agency as a buffer between myself and company. Unfortunately, in today’s environment Bamboo seems to be one of a handful of companies accepting applications and there is no need for assistance in their recruitment drive. Best of luck to all who apply and hopefully some will post a summary of of the T&C’s soon. Be well !

[lee_apromise]

How about the E190?
I was supposed to have my interview yesterday, at 3:30am Central time, however right as I was ready, I got a Skype message from them, at 3:35am, saying they need to cancel because they're not ready. Not a good first impression if you ask me.

I've been trying to pester them about some T&C's, but so far, nothing. Haven't heard good things about the pay though.

zero pay during ground training, no min guarantee, 5 on 1 off.

[krismiler]

Both fleets will have T&Cs as low as management can get away with during the current crisis. Once things start to improve and better quality candidates are able to look elsewhere they will probably improve.

In the meantime, expect to be taken advantage of.

[Smooth Airperator]

To all those not familiar with Asian airlines... The vast majority have expat Ts and Cs that swing from one extreme to another to reflect market conditions. And this often happens within a 24 hour period. And what you've been promised and signed up for often changes before start date. Don't go quoting the law, it doesn't work for Johnny Foreigner in a foreign land. In the current climate, you will make more at home as a delivery driver and have a life to boot. If it's currency you care about, well thousands are in the same boat. Airlines will have to relax their 12 month rules for the several years. I'm personally not concerned that it'll be 2 years since my last flight by the time I get to fly. Yanks expecting a good impression.....forget it! :{

[Qbix]

Both fleets will have T&Cs as low as management can get away with during the current crisis. Once things start to improve and better quality candidates are able to look elsewhere they will probably improve.

In the meantime, expect to be taken advantage of.
Just out of curiosity what are the better quality candidates?

Regardless still hoping for a straight answer to a straight question without any fairy tales nor brain diarrhea. Thanks!

[krismiler]

Better quality candidates are those licensed by first world countries who were flying for major airlines and were laid off because of COVID. Likely to be already rated with significant experience on type.

Lower quality would be licensed by third world countries, flying for questionable operators and unrated or minimal experience on type.

Once the recovery picks up and more desirable jobs start appearing, the better candidates will drift off to the better employers. In the meantime it’s take what you can get and be thankful if you have any flying job at all.

[Flaperon777]

Obix have you done your Skype interview yet.

[jetjockey696]

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[Qbix]

Well, money is not that good but at least some folks will have a chance to get back to flying. Good thing.

[HandoverRichard]

No mention there of a commuting pattern...

[PPRuNe Towers]

Strange that you seem so desperate that you ignore researching the real actual fleet size and types

Rob

[Qbix]

Strange that you seem so desperate that you ignore researching the real actual fleet size and types

Rob
I think that 100.000 pilots worldwide are at the moment desperate. In two three years after your last actual flight no airline will look at you.
What I found out is that they operate 3 airplanes at the moment and have 20 on order.

Yes, I have passed the Skype interview

[sandagain]

I think that 100.000 pilots worldwide are at the moment desperate. In two three years after your last actual flight no airline will look at you.
What I found out is that they operate 3 airplanes at the moment and have 20 on order.

Yes, I have passed the Skype interview

​​​​​​Any details about the interview? What it was about? Was it a technical or personal/career interview?

[ia1166]

Bamboo only have 3 aircraft?

Wow, they sure do get around then. And quickly too.

Maybe they have supersonic versions

[CW247]

I think that 100.000 pilots worldwide are at the moment desperate. In two three years after your last actual flight no airline will look at you.


They will when they realise that those who flew in the last year are not available!

[Qbix]

They will when they realise that those who flew in the last year are not available!
I truly hope you are correct.

[Lucifer786]

Like I’ve always said before. The first few pilots to join any airline that hires first will be the cream of the crop. That is to say recency wise etc etc. Sadly they will be picked up at the lowest terms n conditions because low cost airlines are well aware that once the skies open up they won’t be able to match legacy carriers salaries. So they will offer sub par salaries initially as bait, take the needy ( and good )ones that come and join, and then when the tap dries ( very soon ) the salaries shall be boosted to match legacy carriers.
Of course, the tap would dry pretty soon considering Internatuonal aviation is picking up unexpectedly quicker than predicted by the doomsday gurus.
😉

[karnc]

Pilot pay will not go back to pre-covid level for a very long time, Airlines will be in cautious mode, expansion will come much slower.

And, even pre-covid, low cost carriers were not paying pilots as low as you believe...

Legacy Airlines and Long haul? ... Difficult time ahead....

[Flaperon777]

Does anyone have any intel on how they conduct their initial OPC / Screening sim.
What is done briefly and anything out of the ordinary to be expected?

[Flaperon777]

Like I’ve always said before. The first few pilots to join any airline that hires first will be the cream of the crop. That is to say recency wise etc etc. Sadly they will be picked up at the lowest terms n conditions because low cost airlines are well aware that once the skies open up they won’t be able to match legacy carriers salaries. So they will offer sub par salaries initially as bait, take the needy ( and good )ones that come and join, and then when the tap dries ( very soon ) the salaries shall be boosted to match legacy carriers.
Of course, the tap would dry pretty soon considering Internatuonal aviation is picking up unexpectedly quicker than predicted by the doomsday gurus.
😉

Totally agree ! 👌👌👌
In the mean time does anyone have any information on how they conduct their initial OPC / Screening sim.
What is done briefly and anything out of the ordinary to be expected? Any additional call outs required by their instructors. Because I hear that they have many additional call outs in addition to the normal Boeing standard call outs.
Any info welcome.

[Bloated Stomach]

My 2 pennies worth.

Bamboo has no recruitment integrity. They have one rule for one person and one for another. The hours requirement is complete dog poo.

Zero integrity when it comes to abiding to the contract.

Use this airline like a dirty mop. Use and abuse them and when the time is right, move to another airline.

[Celestar56]

My 2 pennies worth.

Bamboo has no recruitment integrity. They have one rule for one person and one for another. The hours requirement is complete dog poo.

Zero integrity when it comes to abiding to the contract.

Use this airline like a dirty mop. Use and abuse them and when the time is right, move to another airline.

Do they conduct their sim checks fairly?

[polax52]

Do they conduct their sim checks fairly?

"Fairly". Well in my experience in this part of the world, the answer is a resounding NO. But that means they have expats they like and expats that they don't. If you're one of the guys that happen to fall into their like category, then the sim checks will be extra fair. If you fall into the dislike category then you won't survive long however good your sim's are.

[Celestar56]

"Fairly". Well in my experience in this part of the world, the answer is a resounding NO. But that means they have expats they like and expats that they don't. If you're one of the guys that happen to fall into their like category, then the sim checks will be extra fair. If you fall into the dislike category then you won't survive long however good your sim's are.
Loud and clear. Thanks

[Manisha Dalal]

Is Bamboo Airways Hiring B777 captains too? If yes can anyone share the link of the agency where we can apply?

[Celestar56]

Is Bamboo Airways Hiring B777 captains too? If yes can anyone share the link of the agency where we can apply?
I don't think they are getting 777.. Do a search on Google. The requirement are quite clear

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[netra]

Is Bamboo Airways Hiring B777 captains too? If yes can anyone share the link of the agency where we can apply?
according their page as an expat you need to have at least 1500Hrs (1000PIC) on type

[Flaperon777]

No 777 pilots needed I believe

[netra]

No 777 pilots needed I believe
no expat NTR needed. Vietnamese captains can apply with experience on Boeing widebodies.

[HandoverRichard]

It is my understanding that the Vietnamese CAA does not see the 787 and 777 as a common type. This might clear up any confusion some might have when they think they're a common type.

[stallionA320]

I got a call to write theory exam almost 18-20 days back. Very next day they said "you have passed and will update you on interview soon". Thereafter, no response. Does any one have a clue whether they are even hiring or not?

[Jester64]

I got a call to write theory exam almost 18-20 days back. Very next day they said "you have passed and will update you on interview soon". Thereafter, no response. Does any one have a clue whether they are even hiring or not?

Been waiting since January, others since the middle of last year. Good luck

[BAe 146-100]

Standard practice.........

[rodix]

Been waiting since January, others since the middle of last year. Good luck
Oh...didn't know that. Just saw on their LinkedIn, lot of people applied, reapplied, complained but no response. Really don't know how they work. There hiring ad is everywhere, but nobody is getting a call. If it's Bamboo or entire Vietnam culture is like this, god knows.
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[Flaperon777]

I got a call to write theory exam almost 18-20 days back. Very next day they said "you have passed and will update you on interview soon". Thereafter, no response. Does any one have a clue whether they are even hiring or not?
What equipment and what position did you apply for

[rodix]

What equipment and what position did you apply for
Had applied for A320 Captain. Have stopped following up with them now. Looks bogus or probably they have got people already within Vietnam.

[j.nips]

Anyone seriously considering applying to a company which:

1. Still owes outstanding salaries to both it's current and former pilots

2. Not paying nearly enough to get by to it's current pilots and in some cases even nothing to those who got stuck outside Vietnam due to covid restrictions

3. Expecting you to finance your own flight ticket, visa application, covid testing, quarantine hotel, other fees and expenses, etc.

Just asking for a "friend"...

[krismiler]

It is my understanding that the Vietnamese CAA does not see the 787 and 777 as a common type. This might clear up any confusion some might have when they think they're a common type.

I heard that they don’t even consider the ATR42 and ATR72 as common types either.

[kungfu panda]

Anyone seriously considering applying to a company which:

1. Still owes outstanding salaries to both it's current and former pilots

2. Not paying nearly enough to get by to it's current pilots and in some cases even nothing to those who got stuck outside Vietnam due to covid restrictions

3. Expecting you to finance your own flight ticket, visa application, covid testing, quarantine hotel, other fees and expenses, etc.

Just asking for a "friend"...

You're right to try to discourage people but they're desperate. Half of the World's Pilot community are out of work. There are a lot of people who would do this job for nothing right now, and I really mean a lot.

Things will improve and maybe Bamboo will lose Pilots in the future but that's several years away.

[Qbix]

Latest news is that Bamboo will pay quarantine and air tickets.
Average salary is 6k usd at the moment. Flying 30-40h. That means when things start moving expecetd salary would be around 10k.
If you know a better option please share unless you prefer moarning on pprune instead of flying.

[Celestar56]

Latest news is that Bamboo will pay quarantine and air tickets.
Average salary is 6k usd at the moment. Flying 30-40h. That means when things start moving expecetd salary would be around 10k.
If you know a better option please share unless you prefer moarning on pprune instead of flying.
👍👍👍👍 T

hanks for the update. I also heard that they will cover your accommodation is that true?

Btw the guys who are flying there say the unpaid salary issue has been resolved. Can anyone confirm?

I heard they are in a lockdown right now in Vietnam.

[Qbix]

👍👍👍👍 T

hanks for the update. I also heard that they will cover your accommodation is that true?

Btw the guys who are flying there say the unpaid salary issue has been resolved. Can anyone confirm?

I heard they are in a lockdown right now in Vietnam.

Accommodation is not covered. I can't say about the rest as I don't have that information.

[Celestar56]

Latest news is that Bamboo will pay quarantine and air tickets.
Average salary is 6k usd at the moment. Flying 30-40h. That means when things start moving expecetd salary would be around 10k.
If you know a better option please share unless you prefer moarning on pprune instead of flying.

Just got some information that tax is 35% in Vietnam for if your a resident v.. With 5 weeks on and 1 week off AND no international flights you will definately stay more then 183 days in Vietnam..

I wonder how the guys are surviving there with this kind of a pay package?

[Phil.]

The tax is not really 35% (deduction on the gross of $478/month and $191 per dep). It works with brackets:
$217 taxed at 5%
$217 at 10%
$348 at 15%
$608 at 20%
$869 at 25%
$1,217 at 30%
Above $3,476 at 35%

The good new is that it's not likely that you will reach the middle bracket these times: Salaries are indexed on flight hours.
As it is now the cap from CAAV on airlines flights is as this: Vietnam Airlines can operate 28 flights/day, Vietjet 20, Pacific 3, Bamboo 11 and Vietravel 1. I let you count how many pilots are required to fly that.

[Celestar56]

The tax is not really 35% (deduction on the gross of $478/month and $191 per dep). It works with brackets:
$217 taxed at 5%
$217 at 10%
$348 at 15%
$608 at 20%
$869 at 25%
$1,217 at 30%
Above $3,476 at 35%

The good new is that it's not likely that you will reach the middle bracket these times: Salaries are indexed on flight hours.
As it is now the cap from CAAV on airlines flights is as this: Vietnam Airlines can operate 28 flights/day, Vietjet 20, Pacific 3, Bamboo 11 and Vietravel 1. I let you count how many pilots are required to fly that.

Thanks for the useful info.

[Go330]

Hello Everyone,any updates on the current situation in bamboo? They are not paying salary for pilots etc. They still recruiting people without sim assessment, any Insider source?

[Celestar56]

Hello Everyone,any updates on the current situation in bamboo? They are not paying salary for pilots etc. They still recruiting people without sim assessment, any Insider source?

Think it's the same conditions inside. No salary, pay for own lodging in vietnam.

[Go330]

Think it's the same conditions inside. No salary, pay for own lodging in vietnam.
Oh my.. No salary but still hiring? Are they up for something big coming?

[Lucifer786]

No salary until you start flying on line. And I know of some colleagues who were ‘hired’ in March 2021 with signed contracts and have yet not done their sim assessments !! Getting into VN physically is something of a dream for them at this point in time. And AFTER they get into VN they will have at least 4-6 weeks minimum before they can even think of touching a real airplane ( quarantine, ground classes, medicals, practicals etc etc ).
Easily expect November before they are online. That’s a cool but frustrating 9 months from date of hire to first salary cheque!!
And that too a drastically reduced salary. Less than 60% of the pre pandemic levels.
If you ask me personally, stay away for now. Once contracted you will be tied down for 3 years minimum.
Lots and lots of great opportunities just around the corner. Just wait for a bit …

[Bravo1013]

Salary now to 50% so, immediate.

[dabz]

Be a pilot they said, it would mean a good life they said...
This industry is fuxked... I should've been a doctor.. or a porn star.

[cjsentjd]

Could anyone share skype interview information sir?
My interview is very soon.
I'm studying now. But there are too many books to read.
If you have any information to give me please send a message.
Please help me sir..

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[Lucifer786]

Could anyone share skype interview information sir?
My interview is very soon.
I'm studying now. But there are too many books to read.
If you have any information to give me please send a message.
Please help me sir..

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What aircraft?

[Lucifer786]

Had applied for A320 Captain. Have stopped following up with them now. Looks bogus or probably they have got people already within Vietnam.
That’s what I was trying to convey to another poster.
Either it’s all a data gathering exercise, or they’ve just gotten a windfall of cheap Vietnamese available pilots or it’s simply bogus.
Eitherways, too much for too little !

[Alalf001]

Hi everybody,

I sent my cv and other documents, I did my test for them and now I am waiting for the Skype interview.
any suggestions?

[Jetstreamer737]

Anyone have any info about wether CAAV are now accepting pilots with last flight within 24 months? I see FCL are advertising this for BAMBOO - very interested to know if pilots like us that have been grounded since Covid have a chance - or is it just click bait!!!?????

[ia1166]

Anyone have any info about wether CAAV are now accepting pilots with last flight within 24 months? I see FCL are advertising this for BAMBOO - very interested to know if pilots like us that have been grounded since Covid have a chance - or is it just click bait!!!?????

Yes is the short answer.

VNA are bringing back some 350 guys, so there must be a procedure. They were already on contract though.

[cjsentjd]

What aircraft?
A320 sir~~

[Takumi2]

No salary until you start flying on line. And I know of some colleagues who were ‘hired’ in March 2021 with signed contracts and have yet not done their sim assessments !! Getting into VN physically is something of a dream for them at this point in time. And AFTER they get into VN they will have at least 4-6 weeks minimum before they can even think of touching a real airplane ( quarantine, ground classes, medicals, practicals etc etc ).
Easily expect November before they are online. That’s a cool but frustrating 9 months from date of hire to first salary cheque!!
And that too a drastically reduced salary. Less than 60% of the pre pandemic levels.
If you ask me personally, stay away for now. Once contracted you will be tied down for 3 years minimum.
Lots and lots of great opportunities just around the corner. Just wait for a bit …

Thanks, i almost leave may current employeer for this opportunity

[Celestar56]

Everything Originally Posted by Lucifer786
IS TRUE TO THE DOT. THIS IS FOR 787 guys there.

I know a couple of ex Norwegian guys who joined in Apr 2021. They just got to Hanoi.. No SALARY STILL AND you need to pay your own rent and daily expenses. Best of ALL, the contract they first signed isn't the contract they are now told to sign. I don't think this group are taking it up...

FAIR WARNING, STAY AWAY FROM BAV!!!
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Thanks, i almost leave may current employeer for this opportunity

[Lucifer786]

Everything Originally Posted by Lucifer786
IS TRUE TO THE DOT. THIS IS FOR 787 guys there.

I know a couple of ex Norwegian guys who joined in Apr 2021. They just got to Hanoi.. No SALARY STILL AND you need to pay your own rent and daily expenses. Best of ALL, the contract they first signed isn't the contract they are now told to sign. I don't think this group are taking it up...

FAIR WARNING, STAY AWAY FROM BAV!!!
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I stand to completely concur. The original contract letter that was mutually signed by most pilots and then countersigned by their HR Director and ‘red stamped’ by Bamboo before their ‘official on boarding’ dates equated to about 10,500 USD PM for Boeing Captains before tax for 50 hours of flying.This by itself is about 50-60% market rate.
The one being asked to sign now, once these pilots are in the country and cannot leave due border restrictions and lockdowns, is about 70% of the contract already signed …!!
BAV logic is that we paid for your hotel quarantine, your sim check and your tickets to Hanoi. So now you are here, you need to pay us back !
And this contract incidentally, will be valid for 3 years of slavery in VN.
😳
Stay away is all I can say. Goal posts are shifted every week to suit the company’s interests. And you are slowly but surely tied down to submit with no chance of leaving physically or contractually.
Every heard of Hôtel California … 🙄

[HarithA320]

Hi everybody,

I sent my cv and other documents, I did my test for them and now I am waiting for the Skype interview.
any suggestions?
Hi !
I saw you have said that you did the test for bamboo. can you give me some tips for the exam? and is there any software or site which i can practice the test?

thank you !
Harith

[Bloated Stomach]

Hi !
I saw you have said that you did the test for bamboo. can you give me some tips for the exam? and is there any software or site which i can practice the test?

thank you !
Harith

You can start preparing by lubricating your backside. It’s going to be painful otherwise.

[ia1166]

I stand to completely concur. The original contract letter that was mutually signed by most pilots and then countersigned by their HR Director and ‘red stamped’ by Bamboo before their ‘official on boarding’ dates equated to about 10,500 USD PM for Boeing Captains before tax for 50 hours of flying.This by itself is about 50-60% market rate.
The one being asked to sign now, once these pilots are in the country and cannot leave due border restrictions and lockdowns, is about 70% of the contract already signed …!!
BAV logic is that we paid for your hotel quarantine, your sim check and your tickets to Hanoi. So now you are here, you need to pay us back !
And this contract incidentally, will be valid for 3 years of slavery in VN.
😳
Stay away is all I can say. Goal posts are shifted every week to suit the company’s interests. And you are slowly but surely tied down to submit with no chance of leaving physically or contractually.
Every heard of Hôtel California … 🙄

no chance of leaving physically or contractually.??????????????

seriously fake news going on here. I can fly back to the UK anytime I like. And its cheap too. Many guys I know have taken 3 or 4 months unpaid to go home for a while. Its easy as. Qatar fly nearly everywhere.

The only pilots who might be restricted in leaving are Aus and NZ due to their own country restrictions. Not Vietnam.

To be fair to Bamboo, Vietnam in Apr21 and Jul 21 and now Sep21 is a totally different environment for aviation. If you signed a contract that stated you would not get paid until completion of line training and went to a country without a high vaccination rate in the middle of a global pandemic then you must have appreciated there is some risk involved. Bamboo do not even have a Sim in Vietnam. There are no flights at present, no training facilities are open. There is no training going on at all and a lot of pilots are not working.

I am hopeful for the future, now Jan 22 we have been told. In the meantime we are all sitting at home. The basic is low for everyone.

Take it or leave it. Go home or stay. Your choice. Its the same for everyone, local or expat. Why would new joiners be paid anything?

[ia1166]

10,500 USD PM for Boeing Captains before tax for 50 hours of flying.This by itself is about 50-60% market rate.

Not current market rate.

Plenty of 787 drivers hanging around on zero money

[Jester64]

Can anyone confirm if A320 guys have been called up for an actual Skype interview (interview, not the test) who haven't actually flown the aircraft in more than 12 months?

[Lucifer786]

no chance of leaving physically or contractually.??????????????

seriously fake news going on here. I can fly back to the UK anytime I like. And its cheap too. Many guys I know have taken 3 or 4 months unpaid to go home for a while. Its easy as. Qatar fly nearly everywhere.

The only pilots who might be restricted in leaving are Aus and NZ due to their own country restrictions. Not Vietnam.

To be fair to Bamboo, Vietnam in Apr21 and Jul 21 and now Sep21 is a totally different environment for aviation. If you signed a contract that stated you would not get paid until completion of line training and went to a country without a high vaccination rate in the middle of a global pandemic then you must have appreciated there is some risk involved. Bamboo do not even have a Sim in Vietnam. There are no flights at present, no training facilities are open. There is no training going on at all and a lot of pilots are not working.

I am hopeful for the future, now Jan 22 we have been told. In the meantime we are all sitting at home. The basic is low for everyone.

Take it or leave it. Go home or stay. Your choice. Its the same for everyone, local or expat. Why would new joiners be paid anything?

Quite frankly I don’t know of a single pilot who has been free to leave from and return to VN without the overbearing restrictions of extensive quarantines and multiple invasive PCNR checks. Notwithstanding the fact that VN has been in the red list since last 6 months and only recently moved to amber temporarily.
So if you know someone who’s moving across international borders then it’s great. I don’t.
And how do you suppose one jumps a contract and bond after signing and accepting it.
My point was that the odds were stacking up against leaving the country and or the company due to unfair labor practicing. And now they were dangerously high.
10.5K USD PM is approx 60% pre covid levels I believe.
Just clarifications that’s all.
Now off to my pinacolada … 🍹

[ia1166]

Quite frankly I don’t know of a single pilot who has been free to leave from and return to VN without the overbearing restrictions of extensive quarantines and multiple invasive PCNR checks. Notwithstanding the fact that VN has been in the red list since last 6 months and only recently moved to amber temporarily.
So if you know someone who’s moving across international borders then it’s great. I don’t.
And how do you suppose one jumps a contract and bond after signing and accepting it.
My point was that the odds were stacking up against leaving the country and or the company due to unfair labor practicing. And now they were dangerously high.
10.5K USD PM is approx 60% pre covid levels I believe.
Just clarifications that’s all.
Now off to my pinacolada … 🍹

Me. I did, so did quite a few other VN pilots. There are quite a few I know who have gone back home as recently last month and will return in a couple of months. Germany to be specific. Also France 2 months ago. Portugal 3 months ago and was supposed to return but has extended his LWOP. Bulgarian went in May with permission to return. A 321 skipper I know is leaving 1/10 for 3 to 4 months to see his family. All with permission and allowed to return. One Australian came back last July, renewed his license, and went back to Australia. He is now back here again.

Still need to fulfill quarantine requirements on return at your own expense. But you need to do just to go on holiday these days. It is down to 1 week now for double vax geniuses. Non vaxxed Einsteins will not get far.

My point is if you sign a contract you need to read it carefully. Maybe consider a worse case scenario. Sounds to me like people are just signing anything. I know a 320 pilot who recently refused a contract unless he was paid in full from day 1. He got what he wanted.

Maybe negotiate. Maybe be careful what you sign up for. I am sure a bond to cover quarantine until you complete training was on the contract. As was no salary until line check. Maybe read these things and realize it may all go horrible wrong. Maybe not just see the promise of 10500 a month and read the contract in full.

[ia1166]

10.5K USD PM is approx 60% pre covid levels I believe.

Yeah maybe in China. And it is dependent on amount of work, leave etc etc.

And its not market rate anymore.

[Jester64]

Me. I did, so did quite a few other VN pilots. There are quite a few I know who have gone back home as recently last month and will return in a couple of months. Germany to be specific. Also France 2 months ago. Portugal 3 months ago and was supposed to return but has extended his LWOP. Bulgarian went in May with permission to return. A 321 skipper I know is leaving 1/10 for 3 to 4 months to see his family. All with permission and allowed to return. One Australian came back last July, renewed his license, and went back to Australia. He is now back here again.

I find this hard to swallow being one of the pilots who has not been allowed to re-enter the country or the airline since the pandemic began, and has not flown since FEB 2020. All those examples are they pilots from VNA?

[ni si ni no]

Not so much id say. Plenty of VNA skippers sitting at home since FEB2020 waiting to return

[Lucifer786]

Not so much id say. Plenty of VNA skippers sitting at home since FEB2020 waiting to return

Is that true. I thought VNA guys were more or less keeping at least their currency and recency by flying every month at the very least.
What’s with the over hyped USA flights from VN via Bamboo. Shouldn’t that take away a whole lot of crews. I assume the excess pilots would come from VNA to BVA ..

[Luke SkyToddler]

Is that true. I thought VNA guys were more or less keeping at least their currency and recency by flying every month at the very least.
What’s with the over hyped USA flights from VN via Bamboo. Shouldn’t that take away a whole lot of crews. I assume the excess pilots would come from VNA to BVA ..
Virtually all the VNA expats have been suspended without pay for the last 18 months, and therefore had to return to our home countries in order to find work. A small number of them, mostly widebody skips and narrowbody instructor / examiners, were able to stay employed, on vastly reduced salary

[Lucifer786]

Virtually all the VNA expats have been suspended without pay for the last 18 months, and therefore had to return to our home countries in order to find work. A small number of them, mostly widebody skips and narrowbody instructor / examiners, were able to stay employed, on vastly reduced salary

Thats very very interesting … 🤔
To know that wide body skips were retained over narrow body drivers. Especially in these uncertain international travel times … 🤨

[ThrustAssymComp]

no chance of leaving physically or contractually.??????????????

seriously fake news going on here. I can fly back to the UK anytime I like. And its cheap too. Many guys I know have taken 3 or 4 months unpaid to go home for a while. Its easy as. Qatar fly nearly everywhere.

The only pilots who might be restricted in leaving are Aus and NZ due to their own country restrictions. Not Vietnam.

To be fair to Bamboo, Vietnam in Apr21 and Jul 21 and now Sep21 is a totally different environment for aviation. If you signed a contract that stated you would not get paid until completion of line training and went to a country without a high vaccination rate in the middle of a global pandemic then you must have appreciated there is some risk involved. Bamboo do not even have a Sim in Vietnam. There are no flights at present, no training facilities are open. There is no training going on at all and a lot of pilots are not working.

I am hopeful for the future, now Jan 22 we have been told. In the meantime we are all sitting at home. The basic is low for everyone.

Take it or leave it. Go home or stay. Your choice. Its the same for everyone, local or expat. Why would new joiners be paid anything?

One I can confirm is they do 787 simulator at Boeing Flight Service in Singapore.

[Luke SkyToddler]

Thats very very interesting … 🤔
To know that wide body skips were retained over narrow body drivers. Especially in these uncertain international travel times … 🤨
Simple explanation, a bunch of 350s got their seats taken out and converted to cargo. And the pilots have to quarantine for 3 weeks after every flight. So they still needed pilots, even though everybody was only getting one or two flights a month.

Everyone's got their own circumstances, some pilots have got VNese wives and kids, so of course they needed to stay in VN, even under the drastically reduced salary. And the company allowed them to do so, as much as possible. I've got no problem with that

[bettigio]

Hi everybody,

I sent my cv and other documents, I did my test for them and now I am waiting for the Skype interview.
any suggestions?
Same here. I did the written test, still waiting for the skype technical interview.
If you send me a private message with your email, I can share with you some study material I have.
Cheers

[Flaperon777]

Any updates on hiring.
A320 ? B787?

[BAe 146-100]

Haha :} …. Been “hiring and skyping” since march 2020…..

[Flaperon777]

Haha :} …. Been “hiring and skyping” since march 2020…..

True. But any ‘real’ recruitment done from then until now …???!!!
🙄🙄🙄

[Max Jnr]

so i did the video interview yesterday, and passed. but apparently I do not have enough hours.:ugh:

[Max Jnr]

Same here. I did the written test, still waiting for the skype technical interview.
If you send me a private message with your email, I can share with you some study material I have.
Cheers
did you guys do your video interview? I did mine, apparently I passed but I do not have enough hours as per CAA!

[bettigio]

I did my written exam back in September. Still waiting for my video interview....probably it will never come. (expat Cpt 11000hr A320)

[Airbus_driver1]

so i did the video interview yesterday, and passed. but apparently I do not have enough hours.:ugh:
hi
I have to do my technical exam 320 and SKYPE interview. Any tips ?
do you know any salary amounts ?

[Climb150]

did you guys do your video interview? I did mine, apparently I passed but I do not have enough hours as per CAA!

Why on earth did they interview you then?

[ROCCO SIFFREDI]

I just want to give a heads up to all pilots looking to apply for bamboo Airways. After extensive research I have found out that the salary currently many agencies are posting is false claims. It’s before tax and the 30% covid reduction. My friends tells me that you can expect 2000-5000$ per month.

Ciao

[jeenfig]

Can anyone provide updated info about Skype Interview?

[Flaperon777]

I just want to give a heads up to all pilots looking to apply for bamboo Airways. After extensive research I have found out that the salary currently many agencies are posting is false claims. It’s before tax and the 30% covid reduction. My friends tells me that you can expect 2000-5000$ per month.

Ciao

Rocco. This salary stated above would be for a FO or Capt position. And for what fleet ?

[ROCCO SIFFREDI]

This is the captain salary for A320. Please read carefully the fine print whenever the agencies present these fantasy salaries and confront them about this. It’s all a scam. These salaries they are posting are before tax and before the 30% covid reduction.

I understand we all are desperate for a job but do yourself the favor and do some research before going there. At least know what you getting in to. Try to contact people already working there before embarking on going over there.

On top of that I would count around 6 month of no salary during the time of groundschool and when waiting for your license.

Ciao

[Celestar56]

Rocco. This salary stated above would be for a FO or Capt position. And for what fleet ?

Captains on 787 working more then 75hrs can't even see 7½k usd.

Their latest ad posts 13.3k +++.. It far from what you're going to see.

They don't tell you, only until you get here thEN they will change your contract and tell you the company can cut your pay as and when they like. Right now, 30% off goes back to the company and another 35% goes to the Vietnam government.

[Flyingforpeanuts]

I am currently employed with bamboo, and can verify that whatever is being said above about salaries is true. You will never get the salaries they are advertising, you hardly make 5-6k as a captain, 3-4k as a FO. There is no fixed salary and its based on your actual flight hours. I dont know how these people have the balls to advertise a false salary of 13k. If you apply to them( through an agency or directly) , please ask them if its net salary and also if there is any fixed component. You will know the truth. Bunch of scamsters and liars sitting in HR. Salaries are delayed, they purposely paid pilots extra for three months so they stay back for their high season and now are asking that money back from pilots saying it was an accounting error. 😂. No fixed roster, you usually get 5-7 days roster, which is also changed many times, its hard to plan your personal life. They target you personally if you speak up against the company, probably wouldn't renew your contract too as you will be labelled as troublemaker. Also not to mention, the contract terms change every 2-3 months. Most of the pilots, including locals are unhappy here. Avoid if you can.

[Nguyen2019]

I totally agree, I have been in Bamboo since the beginning and we never got a proper roster. The flight program is changing daily and you are Lucky to have it for one week, generally is for few days. They never respect their own policies. Regarding Salary, it is adapted according to HR policies that are continuously changing. You won't be able to understand what your salary will be, and you can't complain since they will never answer clearly. Compared to pre covid period we are now paid only for flights hours and 50% less. then you can consider that they ERASED THE COMMUTING down to 5-1 only and in the next few months we are gonna have the 8-2 option, unpaid. Before we had 6-2 and a fixed salary up to 70 hours. Now is a Joke
The other main issue is that for most of us they didn't pay taxes while the amounts were detracted monthly from our payslips. We can't have any official tax declaration and consequently, we are unable to claim our tax refund. The company is using "Viber" for official communication adding you to several groups to keep people divided and avoid complaints. If you complain you are blacklisted and the contract is not renewed. The training process is long and disorganised. You will be waiting months. In the main time salaries are always delayed or cut without any official explanation. You can stay in this company only if you are really desperate or without any other option. Better to look for something else. I will be leaving ASAP special thanks to Mr Duc Manh that with his personal touch and outstanding manners.

[Nguyen2019]

I am currently employed with bamboo, and can verify that whatever is being said above about salaries is true. You will never get the salaries they are advertising, you hardly make 5-6k as a captain, 3-4k as a FO. There is no fixed salary and its based on your actual flight hours. I dont know how these people have the balls to advertise a false salary of 13k. If you apply to them( through an agency or directly) , please ask them if its net salary and also if there is any fixed component. You will know the truth. Bunch of scamsters and liars sitting in HR. Salaries are delayed, they purposely paid pilots extra for three months so they stay back for their high season and now are asking that money back from pilots saying it was an accounting error. 😂. No fixed roster, you usually get 5-7 days roster, which is also changed many times, its hard to plan your personal life. They target you personally if you speak up against the company, probably wouldn't renew your contract too as you will be labelled as troublemaker. Also not to mention, the contract terms change every 2-3 months. Most of the pilots, including locals are unhappy here. Avoid if you can.

They ask us back 3000 USD those M.....F...R !!! sorry sorry... you believe we are IDIOTS?!?!?

[CW247]

Look what the competition is offering (Vietravel):
Standard Asian comedy. Give it 12 months and provided China doesn't invade Taiwan salaries will be treble.

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/712x842/capture_cf9a52ca65d5bff1ba506ae8242872ade91e39ba.jpg

[FlightDetent]

Sigma usually calculates the aggregate yearly package, can't see it here. Needless to say, that looks like 9000 USD (before taxes?) for 70 hrs (840 yearly) on a 60 days OFF contract.

The minimum EU standard (mobile workers in aviation directive) is 52 * 2 + 4*5 = 124 OFF per year IIRC. Wizzair don't need to be afraid.

[Chief475]

Not sure how you've come to the 9000 figure... You are only getting paid $25 per hour for the first 70 hours of flying...

[FlightDetent]

Spot on! The answer if pure human factors.

I did not bother to look at the posted table at all, just assumed and typed a figure from the PIC leaflet.

But after a closer look, even the C4 only adds up to around 7.5k - 8k. And there is more interesting stuff such as blasting 6 days of annual holiday + zero sickleave.

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[IXUXU]

Not sure how you've come to the 9000 figure... You are only getting paid $25 per hour for the first 70 hours of flying...
Actually it looks like, unless I´m missing something, for the first 70 hours you will get paid only 39:59 hours....being the RATE1 from the hour 30:01 to 70:00

[BAe 146-100]

Take a guess at how many applications they will have before you
even take a look at the pay, 500-1000? Good luck

[NDC79]

I am in BAV and I get an average of 3000 USD flying 80 hours, we don't have any monthly roster and the company is paying you late and changing conditions frequently without any notice.
they told us by Viber that they will pay 100% salary from April but we are unable to understand what about will be since the pay rules are hidden and with numbers changing according to HR internal management advice. the commuting options are 5-1 or 8-2 but are monthly changed and you should ask for unpaid leave if you want to travel home. More than that they will retain the last salary to avoid you to escape (they . Company is NOT giving any release letter before FOUR MONTHS if you resign as to ban you to move in another company and is forcing you to leave the country accusing Civil Aviation authorities for that rule... CAAV is NOT checking at all this bad behaviour. They start promoting some FO as Captains now and they have several cadets that are gonna feed company needs for the next months. So not many chances to enter as FO and anyway I will be looking at VJ that is now recovering. Better salary, working conditions and commuting options. Salary free of taxes, NET without any TAX trouble due to late or inconsistent Bamboo Payments.

Not sure how you've come to the 9000 figure... You are only getting paid $25 per hour for the first 70 hours of flying...

There are only Broker-provisions, the reality is different

[NDC79]

they got the same application numbers of all the companies around the world...everyone is applying in any place bro

[pfvspnf]

Viber is a good way to announce pay increase

[FlightDetent]

Viber is a good way to announce pay increaseRevolut better. :ok:

Given what's posted, the whole VN landscape sounds still oceans away from anything resembling recovery.

[Chocks Away]

Interesting turn of events! (https://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/news/114119-viet-nam-arrests-bamboo-airways-chairman-stand-in-steps-in)
:D

[FlytoRide]

Can anyone share some information about work pattern in BAV?
BAV has 5/1 commuting contract. Does BAV actually allow pilots to have 1 week off?
I heard they might ask pilots to fly during DAY OFF with some extra allowance, BAV does not expect pilots to say NO.
Is it possible to ask 10/2 instead of 5/1?

[FlytoRide]

I am in BAV and I get an average of 3000 USD flying 80 hours, we don't have any monthly roster and the company is paying you late and changing conditions frequently without any notice.
they told us by Viber that they will pay 100% salary from April but we are unable to understand what about will be since the pay rules are hidden and with numbers changing according to HR internal management advice. the commuting options are 5-1 or 8-2 but are monthly changed and you should ask for unpaid leave if you want to travel home. More than that they will retain the last salary to avoid you to escape (they . Company is NOT giving any release letter before FOUR MONTHS if you resign as to ban you to move in another company and is forcing you to leave the country accusing Civil Aviation authorities for that rule... CAAV is NOT checking at all this bad behaviour. They start promoting some FO as Captains now and they have several cadets that are gonna feed company needs for the next months. So not many chances to enter as FO and anyway I will be looking at VJ that is now recovering. Better salary, working conditions and commuting options. Salary free of taxes, NET without any TAX trouble due to late or inconsistent Bamboo Payments.



There are only Broker-provisions, the reality is different
Do you need to ask unpaid leave even if you just need 1 week off after 5 weeks of duty?

[pfvspnf]

Who put him in jail ?

[Flyingforpeanuts]

Do you need to ask unpaid leave even if you just need 1 week off after 5 weeks of duty?
It is anyway unpaid leave because you don't have any basic salary here except the housing allowance of $700 😂 you only get paid (never on time) for what you fly.

[bitemyhardly]

Those scammers are updating the salary policy to 100% of WHAT?!? we should ask it on Viber and maybe we are gonna have an answer... or maybe Duc Mahn is calling you again to **** you up...

As far as I understood the famous 100% is pre covid - 50% so far far away from VJ Salary.


I am in BAV and I get an average of 3000 USD flying 80 hours, we don't have any monthly roster and the company is paying you late and changing conditions frequently without any notice.

they told us by Viber that they will pay 100% salary from April but we are unable to understand what about will be since the pay rules are hidden and with numbers changing according to HR internal management advice. the commuting options are 5-1 or 8-2 but are monthly changed and you should ask for unpaid leave if you want to travel home. More than that they will retain the last salary to avoid you to escape (they. Company is NOT giving any release letter before FOUR MONTHS if you resign as to ban you to move in another company and is forcing you to leave the country accusing Civil Aviation authorities of that rule... CAAV is NOT checking at all this bad behaviour. They start promoting some FO as Captains now and they have several cadets that are gonna feed company needs for the next months. So not many chances to enter as FO and anyway I will be looking at VJ which is now recovering. Better salary, working conditions and commuting options. Salary free of taxes, NET without any TAX trouble due to late or inconsistent Bamboo Payments.




There are only Broker-provisions, the reality is different

[bitemyhardly]

Duc is famous since was in VJ... a racist that hates foreigners, unfortunately.
As the fleet manager is totally inadept with no manners at all.
his attitude is going to destroy all the company's dreams :yuk:

[Jbravo85]

They ask us to sell our holidays as usual promising double payment but their behaviour doesn't change so far... no roster...late payments are well below promised and we are unable to understand clearly how much and when we will receive next month. The Family is going to move soon from FLC tower to a different place owned by the new investor.
Meanwhile, most of the old expat pilot generation left or resigned with the bribe of 120 days stated by the Labour Ministry although is contrary to Vietnamese law. The Family is always applying the best conditions for employees or is asking you to pay for the famous Vietnamese "release letter" as you were convicted in this country like a slaves

[Jbravo85]

Is not a racist man... he just hates foreigners :) is still the cockpit overloaded with him? :zzz::O

Duc is famous since was in VJ... a racist that hates foreigners, unfortunately.
As the fleet manager is totally inadept with no manners at all.
his attitude is going to destroy all the company's dreams :yuk:

[bitemyhardly]

No, he is losing weight now, but manners are still far away. Anyway, as he said BAV is around 30% less than its competitor plus the other usual issues... no roster, no clear salary policy, no respect for flight crew, and no decent commuting.... better to look around.
The main issue is that they will not give you the famous release letter before four months... a sort of bribe to avoid you swapping with VJ.

[bitemyhardly]

Salary speaking... usual mess... no clear policies, NDM said 100%... of what we don't know... and now another 30%... "calculating".... WOW we are amazed!!! maybe you believe someone is still relying on your fake news :D AND we hope they will pay our taxes since the Government is still waiting for 2020 etc. etc. :}

[Jbravo85]

Amazing Salary increased +30% ... maybe!
Roster released up to the end of the week
5-1 or 8-2 choice with UNPAID leave days
Command upgrade EASY and CORRECT assessment +++

+++: for friends of the friends only, according to F.M. white list ... deadline in 3 hours

Are YOU EXCITED!
WOW !!!! YES, WE ARE !!!!

[Flappo]

Amazing Salary increased +30% ... maybe!
Roster released up to the end of the week
5-1 or 8-2 choice with UNPAID leave days
Command upgrade EASY and CORRECT assessment +++

+++: for friends of the friends only, according to F.M. white list ... deadline in 3 hours

Are YOU EXCITED!
WOW !!!! YES, WE ARE !!!!
Have you resigned yet?

[bitemyhardly]

the usual bamboo answer is "maybe" :O

[Jbravo85]

I am currently out and I don't plan on returning to such a hostile environment and sincerely I am sure they will never change their attitude... so feel free to try but just be aware of your choice.
Best of luck

[mosenga]

Yes, you should ask their approval. I have been home several times during this covid period because of family problem and the always aloud me.

[HKG_Refugee]

Why on Earth would you ask a employer for permission to do something on your leave? That's slavery. You're a slave.

[Qbix]

Just to give some positive heads up. It's not all as bad as others write. At least not on my fleet.
With 787 fleet things start to get going quite ok.
We get now monthly roster, averaging 50-60h a month which pays close to 10k usd net. Plenty of free time. Of course 10k is well below the market but that money can give a good life in VN while waiting for the market to improve.
Operations might be messy but flying for Bamboo is super relaxed. Vietnamese very friendly.
Regarding the release letter you can get one the next day provided you pay the notice period. Otherwise it goes pro rated. No problems with that whatsoever.

[Chrphil]

Any change in Bamboo since May? Apparently, they are very desperate for experienced Captains on A320. I would really appreciate feedback prior to continuing with their entry process. From what people wrote though it doesn't sound at all appealing.

[Celestar56]

Any change in Bamboo since May? Apparently, they are very desperate for experienced Captains on A320. I would really appreciate feedback prior to continuing with their entry process. From what people wrote though it doesn't sound at all appealing.
While the rest of the world is revising their packages upwards, this company is trying the opposite. So no, nothing has changed.

[Flyingforpeanuts]

Any change in Bamboo since May? Apparently, they are very desperate for experienced Captains on A320. I would really appreciate feedback prior to continuing with their entry process. From what people wrote though it doesn't sound at all appealing.
Still below industry average salary with ****ty HR giving ****ty excuses for not going back to precovid salary. Vietjet pilots earn almost 1.5 times more with contract option of 6.2 as compared to 8.2 here. And the salary is based on your flying hours. Nothing has really changed.

[Chrphil]

Still below industry average salary with ****ty HR giving ****ty excuses for not going back to precovid salary. Vietjet pilots earn almost 1.5 times more with contract option of 6.2 as compared to 8.2 here. And the salary is based on your flying hours. Nothing has really changed.

Thank you for your input, just so you know, Vietjet are currently on the search for suitable people and forming a pool. They will start recruitment in a few months they said ( whatever that means), So I believe Asia will soon be opening up with better terms.

[GearDown320]

Any change in Bamboo since May? Apparently, they are very desperate for experienced Captains on A320. I would really appreciate feedback prior to continuing with their entry process. From what people wrote though it doesn't sound at all appealing.

Just heard they screwed the 787 expats by giving them another paycut a week back (mind you this is on top of the many revisions downwards since they started operations) and they gave the locals a payrise.

This company are lead by gangsters.

[netra]

Thank you for your input, just so you know, Vietjet are currently on the search for suitable people and forming a pool. They will start recruitment in a few months they said ( whatever that means), So I believe Asia will soon be opening up with better terms.
they're waiting for Chinese market to reopen.

[BAe 146-100]

That is a long way off yet… could be years away

[Chrphil]

A Bamboo 787 has been sitting in Sydney for a few days now. According to flightaware it’s outbound service was cancelled on Wednesday and now it’s on a remote bay and hasn’t moved. Word on the street that it’s been repo’d by the lessor.
And yet they are desperate to hire more people! Simply doesn't make any sense, I have declined their offer very recently purely due to the comments herein and I have also sent them a link to this thread so that they know how people feel about them. I have also linked the agency to this thread so that they also know why people aren't interested in the positions they publish on Bamboo.

[BAe 146-100]

No
not

[Flyingforpeanuts]

A Bamboo 787 has been sitting in Sydney for a few days now. According to flightaware it’s outbound service was cancelled on Wednesday and now it’s on a remote bay and hasn’t moved. Word on the street that it’s been repo’d by the lessor.
thats true. 2 of their 3 787s were repossessed by Chinese lessors due to defaulting on payments. They also have been defaulting on payments everywhere, even with AIIMS crew roster. Its been their strategy to delay payments to everyone including employees until the very last moment.
Recently they sent information to crew that they ran out of cutlery and table clothes and so crew wont be given this stuff during their meals 😂. The ****tiest part of this company is the HR, run by Ms. TRANG who actually behaves like a gangster and has zero knowledge of aviation

[Celestar56]

And yet they are desperate to hire more people! Simply doesn't make any sense, I have declined their offer very recently purely due to the comments herein and I have also sent them a link to this thread so that they know how people feel about them. I have also linked the agency to this thread so that they also know why people aren't interested in the positions they publish on Bamboo.

It was revealed by management that before even covid happened, in order to attract pilots.. that HR came out with the package, which the Board of Directors approved. BUT with NO INTENTION OF HONOURING.

When covid happened, it was just convenient for them to use it as an excuse not to honour any thing in the contract.

​​​​​Now with covid on the other side of the curve,.. where other airlines are scrambling to keep their staff and restoring salary... This company had the audacity to cut 787 Pilots salary in August.. back dating it back to May.

Soon they will advertise a mediocre package because they are trying to add another few aircraft... but when you join you will never come even close to what was signed in the contract.

The recent grounding of one of the 787s in SYD becos of delayed payment in rental arrays clearly shows they will do anything to try not to pay. BTW the aircraft was grounded a second time when it returned because they again refused to pay.

That's Bamboo Airways for you.
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[GearDown320]

Thank you for your input, just so you know, Vietjet are currently on the search for suitable people and forming a pool. They will start recruitment in a few months they said ( whatever that means), So I believe Asia will soon be opening up with better terms.


Its a wise choice.

HR say they raised it vs their previous salary by 3% (wow.. BIG DEAL) BUT THAT'S if you get to fly 75%.. With only 3 aircraft, no one hits that kind of hours therefore these guys are planets away from what was on contract salary.

Contracted salary was never honoured. Never even came close.

But best of all when you do around 40-50hours (which is what the 787 guys usually do) they will take another salary drop of a few hundred USD compared to their COVID package (not the original package).

Guys who signed their original contract during covid were offered guaranteed hours and at least ½ more.

​​​​​​Of cos no one ever saw it...

After joining, company circular sent to you saying sorry, times are bad your pay reduced by 50%..please help the company.

Now times are better.. Still sorry.. CEO in jail and we owe everyone money. Even though flights are all full now and we are making money but not enough to go around. So continue sucking eggs.

[Cat_pilot]

Can anybody tell how is the situation for A320 F/O?
What are the packages and avg flying hours and roster patterns and so on pls..

[abc88]

I would also be interested if anybody has more information about A320 F/O situation. They seem to be hiring many people at the moment.

[SVC1972]

Not sure what is going on with them Had 3 course dates cancelled at short notice, and now told not expecting any new start dates till early 2023. Very un reliable and disorganised

[Sunnytran]

Hi was wondering if anyone had experienced with bamboo a320 cadet fo. Recently got accepted but still unsure if I should go ahead and sign the contract

[Arinito]

Hi was wondering if anyone had experienced with bamboo a320 cadet fo. Recently got accepted but still unsure if I should go ahead and sign the contract
I'd like to apply, waiting for more messages 😂