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FQTLSteve
23rd Mar 2020, 09:18
Taken from Airliner Route from today 23.03.20 Emirates UK Ops will be as follows-: BHX 1x Daily A380, GLA 1x Daily 773/A380, LHR 6x Daily A380 and MAN 2x Daily A380. All other UK suspended.

Mr @ Spotty M
23rd Mar 2020, 11:04
Looks like things are changing.
The National Emergency Crisis and Disasters Management Authority, NCEMA, and the General Civil Aviation Authority, GCAA, have decided to suspend all inbound and outbound passenger flights and the transit of airline passengers in the United Arab Emirates (UAE) for two weeks as part of the precautionary measures taken to curb the spread of the COVID-19.

The decision, which is subject to re-assessment, will take effect in 48 hours.

In a statement today, the GCAA said cargo and emergency evacuation flights would be exempt.

ZULUBOY
20th Mar 2021, 10:41
Appreciate this is a long way off but we were looking to go and visit my sister in Melbourne in Easter 2022. It looks like the EK evening flight from MEL is not showing as operating ( looked as far as Feb 2022) which makes connection to BHX (and most other UK regionals) very poor.

Does anybody know or have an opinion as to whether the evening flight will return? We'd prefer to use EK as we have some miles to use.

simoncorbett
20th Mar 2021, 11:25
Emirates are very good at upping the schedules when needed & I think the U.K. market will return to 2019 levels quickly once the world returns to normal

CabinCrewe
20th Mar 2021, 14:21
Was EDI ‘suspended’ or officially dropped?

SWBKCB
20th Mar 2021, 14:47
In the current situation, is there a difference?

FRatSTN
20th Mar 2021, 15:22
Depends I suppose if they still have an active contract with EDI airport. I think they still do with STN, but like many others is just suspended for the foreseeable.

ZULUBOY
23rd Mar 2021, 17:56
Thanks Simon. As if by magic the evening flight from MEL is now showing in Feb 2022 with the morning one now gone so that means a much better connection to BHX.

Edit. MEL flight also now showing as A380 which wasn't the case when I posted originally

nighthawk117
24th Mar 2021, 09:47
They let all the staff go at EDI, so I'd say "officially dropped"

CabinCrewe
4th Aug 2021, 21:08
With changes in UAE travel restrictions tonight, could there be a UK EK ramp up?

Rutan16
5th Aug 2021, 05:53
It will allow them to land and disgorge self loading freight in Manchester legally from Monday, rather than to hypocritical RED list entry points which for some reason I haven't quite grasped include Bristol and Birmingham however not the only major airport outside the capital with a significant long haul network.

OzzyOzBorn
5th Aug 2021, 14:57
The changes represent positive progress, but until major markets in Asia and (particularly) Australasia open up to travellers from the UK and vv, one would expect the ramp-up to be cautious. Even as restrictions are lifted, customers who generally book long-haul trips well in advance will remain wary of draconian rule changes imposed with minimal notice by politicians disrupting their eligibility to travel. I expect the recovery to 2019 levels to be slow (though the percentage rises in passenger numbers yoy will look amazing).

India going "amber list" from the UK will be helpful, looking beyond the UAE itself.

Charley B
11th Aug 2021, 12:44
Does anyone know if EK intend restarting LGW anywhen soon?
the flights used to be busy before Covid appeared .

772
11th Aug 2021, 13:13
as with everything, subject to change but currently expected to return for summer 22 but just the lunchtime rotation, not the three daily we were used to

Charley B
11th Aug 2021, 13:38
Thank you x
Hoping if Oz and NZ reopen sooner,EK may come back before Summer 22🙏

Skipness One Foxtrot
11th Aug 2021, 13:46
DXB-GLA restarted passenger flights today, B77L scheduled but B77W operated.

772
11th Aug 2021, 15:26
no way. God knows when oz and NZ will open borders !

gopaisleygo
11th Aug 2021, 19:20
Good to see EK back.

Seljuk22
1st Sep 2021, 15:57
Last 3 A380 will be delivered by November 2021
https://www.emirates.com/media-centre/emirates-to-receive-final-a380-in-november/

Seljuk22
6th Aug 2022, 07:57
Some new routes/frequency increases compared to pre-COVID:

TLV new destination started with daily B77W flights on 23rd June; 2nd daily to be added from 30th October
DME new 3rd daily flight to be added from 1st October
MRU new 3rd daily flight to be added from 1st October
MLE has been increased to 24/7

Compared to summer 2019 following destiantions have not (yet) been resumed:
EDI, SAW (IST increased from 11/ to 17/7), ZAG (servived by FZ), OPO, EWR (DXB-EWR nonstop flight not resumed; currently served only via ATH), SCL, HND (might come back in summer 2023), PNH, RGN, ADL

Most destinations are planned to be back to pre-COVID frequencies by 2023 but some will be serviced with B77W instead of A380 previously.

RA85684
6th Aug 2022, 17:08
I'm hoping to see Newcastle restored to daily, ideally with the original midday schedule. I wonder what happened to the report that the flights were to go twice daily.

CabinCrewe
6th Aug 2022, 18:06
I'm hoping to see Newcastle restored to daily, ideally with the original midday schedule. I wonder what happened to the report that the flights were to go twice daily.
Hasn’t the NCL timings been adjusted?

sunshine79
6th Aug 2022, 18:10
NCL-DXB goes back to lunchtime departure from 29th October. They should do the night flight on Tuesday and Thursday to mix it up

GulfTraveller
6th Aug 2022, 18:53
There was never a plan for twice daily. The airline simply applied for lunchtime and evening slots before deciding on the timing of the service.

RA85684
7th Aug 2022, 00:01
x7 weekly daytime, x4 weekly evening ;)

HH6702
7th Aug 2022, 23:25
x7 weekly daytime, x4 weekly evening ;)

ncl will most likely be that before double daily.
can’t see it happening before the end of 2024

Seljuk22
4th Feb 2023, 10:28
For summer 2023 the majority of destinations will be at pre COVID levels in terms of frequencies. A380 not returned to all destinations/flights.

Compared to summer 2019 following destinations will/have not (yet) been resumed:
EDI
ZAG (serviced by FZ)
SAW (IST increased from 11/7 to 21/7)
OPO
EWR (DXB-EWR nonstop flight not resumed; currently daily DXB-ATH-EWR)
SCL (as a tag-on to GRU, GIG or EZE)
KBL
PNH (rumoured tag-on to BKK might be re-launched in August)
RGN
ADL

Biggest gaps compared to 2019:
Scotland: was 3 daily (incl. A380), now only 1 daily
JNB: was up to 4 daily, now only 2 daily
China (incl. HKG): was 9 daily (majority A380), now (planned) with 5 daily after recent resumption

CabinCrewe
16th Mar 2023, 14:04
nice subtle livery refresh. Evolution rather than drama

Seljuk22
8th Apr 2023, 11:43
Bilaterals between UAE and Canada have been increased to allow each country 21 weekly flights.
Therefore on short notice the flights to YYZ will be increased to daily A380 starting 20th April.

1st May: 3rd daily flight to TLV to be launched
1st June: one of the two daily flights to DPS will get the A380
29th October: CAI will be increased to 4 daily with 2 daily operated by A380

Number of flights to Australia are also on the way back to pre-COVID levels as additional flights to SYD, MEL and BNE have been restored whereas ADL remains cancelled.

Flights to China will be gradually restored by adding further frequencies and A380. PVG and PEK will be back to double daily eff. 1st July and 1st September.

BKK will have 4 daily nonstop flights again from 1st August and JNB is planned to be 3 daily A380 starting January 2024.

Seljuk22
24th Apr 2023, 17:36
Daily flights to Montreal will be launched eff. 5th July with B77W
https://www.emirates.com/media-centre/emirates-to-expand-global-network-with-launch-of-services-to-montreal-in-july/

pabely
29th Sep 2023, 19:04
How come no one else reporting this? Dubai's Emirates orders 200 Airbus A350 aircraft (https://www.zawya.com/en/business/aviation/dubais-emirates-orders-200-airbus-a350-aircraft-lqnrh16e)
If true does it kill their outstanding 787 order?

Sotonsean
29th Sep 2023, 20:07
How come no one else reporting this? Dubai's Emirates orders 200 Airbus A350 aircraft (https://www.zawya.com/en/business/aviation/dubais-emirates-orders-200-airbus-a350-aircraft-lqnrh16e)
If true does it kill their outstanding 787 order?

Lots of A380s and B777s to replace in the coming years. I know that Emirates have ordered plenty of B77Xs but looking towards the future they have a large amount of aircraft to replace.

I definitely think that the B787 has a future in the Emirates fleet. I also don't think that this huge new order with Airbus for 200 A350s will kill their outstanding B787 order.

Looking towards the next decade the Emirates fleet will more than likely consist of A350-900, Airbus A350-1000, B777x, B787-9, B787-10.

pabely
29th Sep 2023, 21:21
The A380 will work well into next decade which is why they are spending $2B on upgrades to Premium Economy, the 777X is due......well who knows.

jmdavies86
29th Sep 2023, 21:27
How come no one else reporting this?

This doesn't strike me as an official announcement (yet...!); who are ZAWYA as a publication as I've not heard of them before...?!

I rather suspect that many of the big-name industry publications (i.e Airways Magazine, FlightGlobal, etc.) & other mainstream media outlets will probably wait until there's a properly scheduled publicity event, which will likely be held at the Dubai Airshow (13-17th Nov), before reporting on this.

Sotonsean
29th Sep 2023, 21:57
The A380 will work well into next decade which is why they are spending $2B on upgrades to Premium Economy, the 777X is due......well who knows.

To be honest I had completely overlooked the fact that Emirates are spending a huge sum of money on upgrades to the A380. But the middle of the next decade is just under 12 year's time away. I should imagine that the Emirates fleet of A380s will have halfed by that time if not more.

By 2035 the Emirates fleet won't be revolving around the A380. Their day's would surely be numbered by then hence why Emirates are possibly interested in making such a huge order for future requirements.

I personally haven't seen or read anything about this order except for here on pprune. As another poster pointed out, any such order if true would more than likely be announced at the forthcoming Dubai Air Show.

pabely
30th Sep 2023, 10:21
My thoughts are with the x6 daily A388s into LHR. That is a big loss of seats moving to any other equipment, unless they get more slots!

SWBKCB
30th Sep 2023, 12:45
The link at post #31 quotes "UAE daily Al-Bayan"

Wiki describes Al-Bayan as

Al-Bayan (Arabic: البيان The Dispatch in English) is an Arabic language newspaper in the United Arab Emirates which is owned by the Government of Dubai

Sotonsean
30th Sep 2023, 14:04
My thoughts are with the x6 daily A388s into LHR. That is a big loss of seats moving to any other equipment, unless they get more slots!

More slots more aircraf, hence the possible large order. By the middle of the next decade the A380 days will certainly be nearing their end.

6 x daily A380 to LHR could easily be replaced by 8 x daily A350-1000. 3 x daily A380 LGW could easily be replaced by 5 x A350-1000, same more or less with MAN and other airports that see multiple daily A380 flights. Emirates could find a way of obtaining more slots and using aircraft such as the A350-1000 to maintain capacity without a loss of seats.

Of course there's also the much delayed B777X that's "due to enter" service for Emirates in 2025. Boeing have stated that sometime during 2025 it will enter service. But it's been a long haul for Boeing to get the aircraft certified.

A large aircraft order as outlined by the author of this thread is quite feasible. Having more fflights with more aircraft to maintain capacity without the A380 is more than likely the future outcome for Emirates. We all love the A380 but it's day's will surely be numbered by the middle of the next decade.

SWBKCB
30th Sep 2023, 14:38
Finding slots for more flights might be the issue

Emirates Airline chief Sir Tim Clark has repeated his call for Airbus to develop a re-engined A380neo, believing the addition of a next-generation powerplant could deliver fuel-burn savings of up to 25%

“I know it’s flying a kite but I am trying to get people thinking,” he says, arguing that an ultra-high-capacity aircraft will be the only solution for slot-constrained airports bearing in mind forecast future passenger growth.

https://www.flightglobal.com/airlines/clark-reiterates-plea-for-a380neo/153733.article

Mr Mac
1st Oct 2023, 14:35
SWBKCB
I would also like it if they kept the A380 as it is by my favourite A/C to fly in as a passenger. Aesthetically it is no looker and I do prefer the A350 in that respect but as a passenger the A380 is excellent, and I have spent along time in them mostly with EK and a little with SQ.

Cheers
Mr Mac

notwithstanding
1st Oct 2023, 16:04
This question may have been asked before - if so I didn’t see the answer - but could someone explain how Air France, Thai, Malaysian & others could afford to retire these a/c so early in their lifespans; considering the huge cost of buying/leasing them not long beforehand ? And, if they are uneconomic, how come Emirates & BA are still “soldiering on” with them ?

UnderASouthernSky
1st Oct 2023, 16:39
Finding slots for more flights might be the issue





https://www.flightglobal.com/airlines/clark-reiterates-plea-for-a380neo/153733.article

Even if you can obtain additional slots at your busier outstations to maintain overall capacity (which comes at a cost, plus additional airport charges per movement) you need those slots to be well timed to align with the transfer banks at DXB - given the majority of customers connect over there.
Effectively adding another hour or two to total journey time because a new slot is less well-timed may push customers towards competing airlines if prices are similar.

Rutan16
1st Oct 2023, 17:41
Even if you can obtain additional slots at your busier outstations to maintain overall capacity (which comes at a cost, plus additional airport charges per movement) you need those slots to be well timed to align with the transfer banks at DXB - given the majority of customers connect over there.
Effectively adding another hour or two to total journey time because a new slot is less well-timed may push customers towards competing airlines if prices are similar.

Not unknown that you end up with a situation such as Cathay with CX251, 239 and 255 grouped together within a 40 minute window. Additional flights don’t automatically lead to additional banks at the hub.

Indeed in the case of Emirates already operate effectively 4 banks
EK002 and EK030 service the same bank with LHR afternoon departure with connections to South Asia and Australia
EK32 and EK04 also share the same bank evening bank
EK08 is the only daytime flight get the best onwards to the sub continent also some of Africa.
EK06 arrives in Dubai for the morning bank of mainly regional connections

Emirtes seem wedded to the banked hub concept rather than a rolling hub ,easy when you don’t have much of a regional commuter network on your books.

CabinCrewe
13th Nov 2023, 19:13
wonder if the FlyDubai 787 order today could supplement/replace/add any UK routes/capacity given their close tie to EK.

pabely
13th Nov 2023, 20:29
wonder if the FlyDubai 787 order today could supplement/replace/add any UK routes/capacity given their close tie to EK.
Reading the announcement new routes the Max cannot reach and add extra capacity where the Max can.
​​​can.
Can't see them coming to the UK.

AirportPlanner1
13th Nov 2023, 22:19
Perhaps it will do thinner and leisure routes into SE Asia etc where it’s a bit of a stretch for a 737 and little/no competition, eg Chiang Mai (ex QR), Krabi (former destination via Yangon), Langkawi, Penang, Siem Reap, Phu Quoc, Vientiane.

Can’t see them being sent to Europe, would have thought a 737 is sufficient for anywhere they could or already fly to.

OntimeexceptACARS
16th Nov 2023, 19:55
Saw elsewhere STC criticising the A350-1000 but confirming a follow on order for the A350-900.

I know the limitations of Simple Flying, but they seemed to be quoting him directly:

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The President seemed happy with the performance of the powerplants for the A350-900, noting that the first of the type will arrive in Dubai in July 2024, entering into service for the peak summer season. But for the -1000, he said that the time on wing is just not what Emirates needs, commenting that,

“If the engine did what we wanted it to do and Rolls-Royce knows what we want it to do, and so does Airbus, then we would re-enter [the Airbus A350-1000] into the assessment for our fleet.”

He detailed that the engines only manage around a quarter of the cycles that Emirates requires, which is around 2,000 - 2,500 cycles. Rolls-Royce noted that it is continually investing in its engines to make improvements throughout their lives and that the XWB-97 on the A350-1000 is no exception.
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Any thoughts from anyone flying the A359 or A35X?

CabinCrewe
5th Jan 2024, 14:01
Seems like EK happy with UK routes into 24
https://travelweekly.co.uk/news/air/emirates-reports-strong-forward-bookings-for-2024

OltonPete
14th Jan 2024, 11:26
Seems like EK happy with UK routes into 24
https://travelweekly.co.uk/news/air/emirates-reports-strong-forward-bookings-for-2024

Interesting as capacity doesn't seem to be increasing in the UK at present although I realise things can indeed change quickly and I assume the current adjustments are due to aircraft issues/upgrades but does anyone know if this is maintenance related or cabin upgrades related with certain types. I realise if one sub-fleet is reduced it has a knock-on effect for the other fleets and thus expansion.

I had a look at the 615 seat A388 as it is a pretty small sub-fleet and easy to check and was surprised to find so far in January only 5 of the 15 flying of which 4 are on maintenance and 6 yet to reappear post covid. I believe the 615 seat aircraft are not going 4 class is that a correct assumption?

Out of the 4 on maintenance one last flew 11/11/23, another 9/12, one 25/12 another 31/12.

So far only this year only BHX has received the 615 seat aircraft in the UK on a regular basis and Dusseldorf in Europe and the odd Frankfurt service. I realise the time of year can make it an optimum time for maintenance/cabin upgrades and I doubt you can be too fussy if offered a hangar slot but it does seem strange that 4 out of 9 to be out of use at the same time. I seem to remember the Gatwick 777 pre planned but was the Manchester all 3 class service planned as well or is their another driver at play. Is this a non-story or more to it?

Pete

chaps1954
14th Jan 2024, 14:20
Manchester has had an F class flight and is due to again and I believe does pretty well

tictack67
14th Jan 2024, 16:41
I believe only 80 of EK's 120 A380s are in service.

Glasgow also has F class service too, seems to be doing very well if you do a booking search

Mr Mac
14th Jan 2024, 17:56
ticktack67
Well hopefully I will be flying with them for some years to come.

Cheers
Mr Mac

Seljuk
26th Jan 2024, 17:23
Some more resumptions planned/announced:

1st January:
DXB-BCN (EK185/188) from daily B77W to daily A380
DXB-BKK (EK370/371) from daily B77W to daily A380 (5 daily A380 in total)

1st February:
DXB-MXP-JFK (EK205/206) from daily B77W to daily A380 (A380 is suspended during winter 23/24)

19th February:
DXB-ICN (EK324/325) new 3 weekly flight with B77W (daily A380 + 3 weekly B77W in total). EY will increase eff May to 11 weekly so all available 21/7 will be used.

1st April:
DXB-MAD (EK143/144) resumption of 2nd daily flight with B77W

1st June:
DXB-NCE (EK077/078) from daily B77W to daily A380

1st October:
DXB-IAD (EK231/232) from daily B77W to daily A380
DXB-BNE (EK430/431) from daily B77W to daily A380 (double daily A380 in total)

1st December:
DXB-PER (EK424/425) resumption of 2nd daily flight with B77W

7th December:
DXB-GIG-EZE (EK247/248) from 4 weekly to 5 weekly B77L

1st January:
DXB-KUL (EK342/343) from daily B77W to daily A380
DXB-HKG (EK382/383) from daily B77W to daily A380 (3 daily A380 in total)

DXB-LGW (EK011/012)
1st February-30 March A380
31st March-31st July B77W
1st August A380


First A359 should be delivered in Q3/2024.

VickersVicount
26th Jan 2024, 19:33
wonder if the Anniversary party function at GLA in a few months could see return to double daily. F and J often going out full currently.

mufc4evr
27th Jan 2024, 05:26
2nd GLA or EDI will return. It's all due to the cabin refits. Half of the fleet is getting premium economy so it's a case making adjustments until the fleets back to speed. 350s will help at the end of the summer

Seljuk
29th Jan 2024, 17:23
1st June: 31st March
DXB-NCE (EK077/078) from daily B77W to daily A380

1st October: 31st March
DXB-IAD (EK231/232) from daily B77W to daily A380

On the other side all mainland China flights (PEK, PVG, CAN) will be operated by B77W instead of A380. Not sure about the background and if the forward bookings are really not that good despite Chinese airlines resuming/increasing their international flights.

Mcvicker03
29th Jan 2024, 20:04
When’s the next update on aircraft upgrades for destinations that emirates serve?

bols59
29th Jan 2024, 23:25
Unfortunately, Simple Flying seems to be inaccurate more often than not. Obvious details incorrect, to the point that it's almost a parody of reporting.

Seljuk
8th Feb 2024, 17:04
1st June:
DXB-KIX (EK316/317) from daily B77W to daily A380

28th October:
DXB-ADL (EK440/441) resumption of daily flight with B77L

11 daily flights to Australia: SYD 3 x A380, MEL 2 x A380 + 1 x B77W, BNE 2 x A380, PER 1 x A380 + 1 x B77W, ADL 1 x B77L

Seljuk
2nd Mar 2024, 08:22
Starting 1st May, a 4th daily with B77W service to Singapore will be launched which will be extended to Phnom Penh
https://www.emirates.com/media-centre/emirates-to-restart-daily-phnom-penh-services-via-singapore/

Starting 3rd June existing daily B77W flight DXB-MIA will be extended to the new destination Bogota
https://www.emirates.com/media-centre/emirates-to-expand-its-south-american-network-with-launch-of-services-to-bogota-from-3-june/