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rogerg
1st Mar 2021, 16:12
I cant seem to provide a link but Youtube has a film from the cockpit of one of 4 BA Concorde's in formation. I never new it had happened.

Jn14:6
1st Mar 2021, 18:17
Concorde's what?

Musket90
1st Mar 2021, 18:31
Happened late 80's or possibly early 90's on a Christmas Eve morning when four were available. All taxied from the BA maintenance base and departed in sequence off Heathrow 27L and were filmed by a Lear Jet over the Bristol Channel. They all returned mid-afternoon in sequence. There used to be a framed aerial photo of it in Heathrow old control tower reception. Maybe it's in the new tower somewhere..

ATSA1
1st Mar 2021, 18:40
I think it was Christmas Eve 1985, to celebrate (nearly) 10 years of service.

Quemerford
1st Mar 2021, 19:25
Concorde's what?

There's a global surfeit of apostrophes ("apostrophe's"), so use them whenever you can. You'll be helping a good cause.

goofer3
1st Mar 2021, 19:33
I think it was Christmas Eve 1985, to celebrate (nearly) 10 years of service.
Link here; CONCORDE SST : 10th Anniversary (http://www.concordesst.com/history/events/10.html)

4468
1st Mar 2021, 19:59
I heard from one of the captains, the subsequent session in the pub wasn’t too shabby either! 😀

Musket90
1st Mar 2021, 20:12
The Concorde key event is incorrect in that they departed 27L (previously 28L). On return they landed 27R (previously 28R). Weather was poor at the time with cloud base around 300ft so once airborne they were soon in cloud. I was fortunate to be next to 27L holding area watching it.

luoto
1st Mar 2021, 20:17
This?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oq4o7vxUi_E

DuncanDoenitz
1st Mar 2021, 20:19
Concorde's what?
Like Concorde, that went quickly over most peoples head's.

denachtenmai
1st Mar 2021, 20:36
I have a photograph of four of them, in line abreast, on my study wall, A very nice 50th birthday present from my wife. :)

Airclues
1st Mar 2021, 21:30
Concorde's what?

Concorde"s in formation. (Concorde is in formation with other Concordes).

Ancient Observer
1st Mar 2021, 21:30
I have my Concorde Colibri Ballpoint pen next to me at my desk. Fully working again after I discovered that one of the Parker refills work in it!

meleagertoo
1st Mar 2021, 21:52
Concorde's what?
Surely the only coherent response to that meaningless phrase is "when, with or doing what?"

Thank God most pilots are more precise and coherent with the way they fly than the way they garble speech or writing...

nomorehelosforme
1st Mar 2021, 22:19
And donít forget the final flights into Heathrow one after another, happened to be on a very high spot in Hounslow to watch that!

Suzeman
1st Mar 2021, 22:40
IIRC the photo ship was G-LEAR of Northern Exec at Manchester

Herod
2nd Mar 2021, 09:09
Thanks, luoto. Wonderful bit of film. I don't know where all the dust in my eyes came from.

netstruggler
2nd Mar 2021, 10:14
... over most peoples head's.

...as did that apparently.

And I've learned that the plural of Concorde is Concorde.

Momoe
2nd Mar 2021, 10:20
Might be a global shortage of apostrophes but no shortage of abbreviation marks :hmm:

treadigraph
2nd Mar 2021, 11:05
...as did that apparently.

And I've learned that the plural of Concorde is Concorde.

African mammal plurals: Elephant, Zebra, Lion, Giraffe, etc... as said by anyone who has been on safari...

Conversely, why do de Havilland, Bristol, Gloster, etc, so often get called Glosters and so on. "It was returned to Glosters last week for modification". You never hear "it was returned to Boeings last week for modification"...

[/drift]

OldLurker
2nd Mar 2021, 13:13
African mammal plurals: Elephant, Zebra, Lion, Giraffe, etc... The classic plural example is "Wolf when you hunt them. Wolves when they hunt you."

Four Wings
2nd Mar 2021, 13:34
I live in Lambeth under LHR's most commonly used approach. When the last 3 Concordes arrived together in Oct 2003 we heard them coming and went into the street to watch them. A Lambeth refuse truck was passing and the crew obviously also heard them, for the truck stopped, out jumped the 3 man, ethnic minority crew, and stood in the middle of the street waving as they passed over one by one.

ve3id
2nd Mar 2021, 13:54
There's a global surfeit of apostrophes ("apostrophe's"), so use them whenever you can. You'll be helping a good cause.

I never could figure out if it is a grocer's, grocers' or just plain grocers apostrophe. Did anybody here go to Grocer's(') Public School so they can tell us what they taught there?

Quemerford
2nd Mar 2021, 14:50
Depends: if it's "the shop of the grocer" then it's "grocer's". But if there are two of them then it's "grocers' ". Also let's not forget the creeping use of "it's" when associating something with something else; so it's "The lion and its tail", not "The lion and it's tail"; the latter would mean, in full, "The lion and it is tail". Thus the title of this thread, in full, is "Concorde is in formation", which only makes sense if there was only one Concorde. So it's either, "A Concorde's in formation" or "Concordes in formation".

Grammar School education wasn't wasted after all.

DH106
2nd Mar 2021, 14:55
Also let's not forget the creeping use of "it's" when associating something with something else; so it's "The lion and its tail", not "The lion and it's tail"; the latter would mean, in full, "The lion and it is tail".

True - but this "its" vs. "it's" has always struck me as a exception to the general possessive rule.

rogerg
2nd Mar 2021, 15:44
I wondered about the correct way of setting this thread up, I am glad it has provided so much entertainment tho I still don't know the correct way.

Jhieminga
2nd Mar 2021, 16:01
From: CONCORDE SST : EVENTS: PAGE 2 (http://www.concordesst.com/history/events/events2.html)

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1067x306/screenshot_2021_03_02_at_18_00_44_67098256563ca09d90575af3f5 d6fbf91b54b975.png

DaveReidUK
2nd Mar 2021, 17:05
Did anybody here go to Grocer's(') Public School so they can tell us what they taught there?

No, but I know somebody who went to Haberdashers' :O

Mach Tuck
2nd Mar 2021, 17:35
Suzeman remembers correctly. Twelve years later, in June 1997, G-LEAR was again the camera platform for these shots of G-BOAF.

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1519x1775/bcbe4030_6c90_4409_8057_c3ffd18245a8_bdf5ea63e37dd930461d130 ebb0fa21ea8784943.jpeg

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1528x1528/45de83c2_719a_4df4_95a0_9cedd3fbc736_5e9b1dab04bdc319bf84d4e 5e129fd3b0dcb4b20.jpeg

treadigraph
2nd Mar 2021, 17:45
No, but I know somebody who went to Haberdashers' :O

Who Asked you? :p :ok:

treadigraph
2nd Mar 2021, 17:46
Nice! Was G-LEAR fitted with Astrovision?

Mach Tuck
2nd Mar 2021, 17:59
Nice! Was G-LEAR fitted with Astrovision?

AstroVision for the formation shoot and Nettmann's VectorVision for the later one.

Equivocal
2nd Mar 2021, 18:47
You never hear "it was returned to Boeings last week for modification"...Presumably because it happens so often that it's not worthy of mention...

tartare
2nd Mar 2021, 23:20
No, but I know somebody who went to Haberdashers' :O

Very droll. :)

ve3id
3rd Mar 2021, 00:48
Depends: if it's "the shop of the grocer" then it's "grocer's". But if there are two of them then it's "grocers' ". Also let's not forget the creeping use of "it's" when associating something with something else; so it's "The lion and its tail", not "The lion and it's tail"; the latter would mean, in full, "The lion and it is tail". Thus the title of this thread, in full, is "Concorde is in formation", which only makes sense if there was only one Concorde. So it's either, "A Concorde's in formation" or "Concordes in formation".

Grammar School education wasn't wasted after all.

Apparently you missed the lesson that taught that it takes two aeroplanes to fly in formation :-)

ve3id
3rd Mar 2021, 00:51
True - but this "its" vs. "it's" has always struck me as a exception to the general possessive rule.Another one - if it belongs to him, you don't say " hi's " do you?

Check Airman
3rd Mar 2021, 01:48
Another one - if it belongs to him, you don't say " hi's " do you?

Give it some time. Ive seen 2 women referred to as "lady's".:ugh:

megan
3rd Mar 2021, 02:15
Apparently you missed the lesson that taught that it takes two aeroplanes to fly in formationI'm sure the regs define it some where, but am I in formation with the other when he's 1,000 below and slightly in front of me maintaining the same relative position and tracking the same route. Anoraks need to know. :8

treadigraph
3rd Mar 2021, 07:51
Give it some time. Ive seen 2 women referred to as "lady's".:ugh:

Ive? := :p

NineEighteen
3rd Mar 2021, 08:59
Apparently you missed the lesson that taught that it takes two aeroplanes to fly in formation :-)
Which moves our 'problem' to that of an incomplete statement rather than incorrect English. What was a Concorde in formation with? ;)

XV490
3rd Mar 2021, 09:40
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/994x598/screenshot_20210303_102033_fdf605862bc479f89301029852bf6665f 21d458d.jpg
Does this shop sign, in north Essex, demonstrate the 'ironmonger's apostrophe'?

Possibly the result of not knowing how to create an isolated '9'-type apostrophe in a Word (or similar) program. Or simply turning the offending symbol upside down.

Jhieminga
3rd Mar 2021, 13:18
So it's either, "A Concorde's in formation" or "Concordes in formation".
Option A: One Concorde and one unspecified aircraft of non-Concorde type in formation.
Option B: A minimum of two Concordes in formation, possibly joined by other type(s).
:}

Quemerford
3rd Mar 2021, 14:39
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/994x598/screenshot_20210303_102033_fdf605862bc479f89301029852bf6665f 21d458d.jpg
Does this shop sign, in north Essex, demonstrate the 'ironmonger's apostrophe'?

Possibly the result of not knowing how to create an isolated '9'-type apostrophe in a Word (or similar) program. Or simply turning the offending symbol upside down.

Well at least they didn't put an apostrophe before the 'S'...

Herod
3rd Mar 2021, 14:48
XV 490: Earls Colne. I've driven past it many times, and never noticed. Either I've been unobservant, or some joker has turned it round. Not living there any more, so can't comment.

treadigraph
3rd Mar 2021, 14:52
This the proper way to present Fork 'Andles (https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.3626533,1.4279337,3a,58.7y,356.71h,89.6t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sH0xm5utrH3YtpUkCsi9UIA!2e0!7i13312!8i665 6?hl=en)...

ex82watcher
3rd Mar 2021, 15:11
And I'm all for candles belng kept in the kitchen drawer,just in case of a power cut.

Self loading bear
3rd Mar 2021, 18:34
As a Concorde is a piece of art formed from aluminum,
I think there is nothing wrong with Concordeís in formation.
But what would I know?
As a Dutchie I donít even know the difference between aluminum and aluminium

GeeRam
3rd Mar 2021, 20:03
The Concorde key event is incorrect in that they departed 27L (previously 28L). On return they landed 27R (previously 28R). Weather was poor at the time with cloud base around 300ft so once airborne they were soon in cloud. I was fortunate to be next to 27L holding area watching it.

I heard all about from a good mate of mine a few days after it happened, as he was one of the lucky BA staff who's salary number was drawn in the lottery for a seat on the aircraft.
He said the best bit was when they all broke from the formation in a fighter-like break away.

Suzeman
4th Mar 2021, 20:57
who's salary number was drawn in the lottery .

Oh dear - here we go again...:uhoh:

Quemerford
5th Mar 2021, 08:06
Oh dear - here we go again...:uhoh:

I'm chomping at the bit here. Irony maybe?

harrryw
7th Mar 2021, 13:41
Shouldn't that be ; Fork's 'andles.

or is it what some sex starved pilot says arrives home to see the opened box of candles and a wife who replies I am too tired now dear,