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cavuman1
29th Jan 2021, 22:20
Very nice looking craft, but one wonders how many must be sold to reach break even. The accompanying article is worth a read.
Aerion New Pictures (https://edition.cnn.com/travel/article/as2-supersonic-jet-florida-hq/index.html?gallery=1)

- Ed
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/789x444/aerion_b0564206a76a67f2d50880a679efa22a4d665dc3.jpg

petit plateau
31st Jan 2021, 15:51
Very nice looking craft, but one wonders how many must be sold to reach break even. The accompanying article is worth a read.
Aerion New Pictures (https://edition.cnn.com/travel/article/as2-supersonic-jet-florida-hq/index.html?gallery=1)

- Ed
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/789x444/aerion_b0564206a76a67f2d50880a679efa22a4d665dc3.jpg

Remarkably close to the 2001/2002 prediction I would say http://www.icas.org/ICAS_ARCHIVE/ICAS2002/PAPERS/881.PDF

• Mach 1.6 cruise • 4,200 nm range • 100,000 lb maximum takeoff weight • 8 passengers in a double-club cabin • $85 million maximum acquisition price (2001 value $$)

key findings : "Speeds above Mach 1.6 reduce profit margins due to cost growth (due to the use of exotic materials, etc.), while below Mach 1.6 lower sales volumes occur • Ranges beyond 4,200 nm reduce profit margins due to cost growth (due to greater fuel requirements and the associated rise in takeoff weight) while ranges of less than 3,500 nm are markedly less attractive due to known usage patterns that severely impinge on the accessible market size • Prices above $85M increase profits by a small amount, but produce a significant increase in the risk of losing market share due to the higher price"

keep an eye out for this item if it ever reaches commercial service "Sensitivity studies (Table II) clearly indicate that the market scenario (i.e. annual sales rate) which emerges for the S3T will be the most critical factor to the financial success of the program. Alternate market scenarios (such as 19-passenger transatlantic service – see full study [1]) indicated that a sales rate of 25 aircraft per year may be conservative, even if rights to over land supersonic flight are not granted." From memory that alternate market scenario has the potential to wipe-out premium conventional scheduled commercial services with very significant implications.

Right Hand Thread
7th Feb 2021, 13:17
It won't turn a wheel.


the market scenario (i.e. annual sales rate) which emerges for the S3T will be the most critical factor to the financial success of the program.
Meanwhile in other news the Pope ****s in the woods and bears are Catholic. Who writes their publicity puffs, a 12-year old?

global2express
22nd May 2021, 12:51
As predicted: Aerion Supersonic abruptly shuts down, citing challenges in securing capital (https://www.floridatoday.com/story/news/2021/05/21/aerion-supersonic-abruptly-shuts-down-citing-challenges-securing-capital/5208809001/)

Right Hand Thread
23rd May 2021, 22:41
Well I hate to say I told you so but.........

atakacs
31st May 2021, 03:54
I'm afraid it was obvious from the get go. Unless we see a major technological breakthrough or some government decides to subsidize it SST is not economically viable

Asturias56
31st May 2021, 11:35
Some of the stuff put out by the companies designing these aircraft are almost criminal - 2-3 years for certification......................

atakacs
31st May 2021, 14:02
Yup... wonder who was backing them thus far. We might see some lawsuits out of this one...

rattman
4th Jun 2021, 07:47
I'm afraid it was obvious from the get go. Unless we see a major technological breakthrough or some government decides to subsidize it SST is not economically viable

Boom recieved an 'order' for 15 from united

Theres a few million in the US DOD budget wanting to transfer money from the bucket used for airforce 2 into looking at a supersonic plane as airforce 2