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MichaelOLearyGenius
8th Jan 2021, 19:25
There are two US Navy 737 type jets (I don’t know what their military designation) at PRESTWICK and have been for a few weeks, occasionally doing circuits. Anyone any idea why they’re there?

Radley
8th Jan 2021, 19:54
There are two US Navy 737 type jets (I don’t know what their military designation) at PRESTWICK and have been for a few weeks, occasionally doing circuits. Anyone any idea why they’re there?
No,most likely crew overseas training. Used to take place from Kinloss when the RAF had it.

chopper2004
8th Jan 2021, 20:46
Just normal C-40 clipper / P-8 passing through ...it’s the love of haggis and proper whiskey draws them to stopover lol

cheers,

roger4
9th Jan 2021, 11:30
There have been up to five US Navy P-8s at Prestwick, and another five from a different USN squadron at Lossiemouth (as well as our four P-8s) daily for the last few weeks. At least one appears to be airborne at any one time, and operations are out over the North Atlantic. Presume the Ruskies are being particularly active at the moment?

Nice Lossie image from Niall Peterson here: RAF-USN P8s | 169544 with a line up of 4x RAF P8s and 4x USN… | Flickr

KPax
9th Jan 2021, 11:34
I am sure I read on a rumour site somewhere that the USN had a 'permanent ' detachment of at least 3 P8's based at Prestwick.

Union Jack
9th Jan 2021, 12:09
Just normal C-40 clipper / P-8 passing through ...it’s the love of haggis and proper whiskey whisky draws them to stopover lol

cheers,

Fix'd that for you!

Jack

chopper2004
10th Jan 2021, 03:01
There have been up to five US Navy P-8s at Prestwick, and another five from a different USN squadron at Lossiemouth (as well as our four P-8s) daily for the last few weeks. At least one appears to be airborne at any one time, and operations are out over the North Atlantic. Presume the Ruskies are being particularly active at the moment?

Nice Lossie image from Niall Peterson here: RAF-USN P8s | 169544 with a line up of 4x RAF P8s and 4x USN… | Flickr (https://www.flickr.com/photos/59398793@N03/50736118073/)

Week before I saw one deployed P-8 come down this way for circuit bashing, touch and go‘s here at the ‚Hall so here are my photos.


https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/960x640/2f0612f3_3bc0_495e_80ab_6551c9ad933f_82c5e3a982f97137dba09f9 f466bd8886523806c.jpeg
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/960x640/462fb2b5_dde2_497b_a5ff_7d57b2126e66_c9481bbd5d9fd48d062befd 691218228e33bb130.jpeg
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/960x640/20c2a8c5_7d1b_4d58_8c87_14fcc9f13c68_3879e311826467aac7d6c45 d308d97f16fed2ba2.jpeg
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/960x640/8da6f440_a409_4d48_a992_bee52104284c_6a3cea500104c90fc745703 81025efde05ab0098.jpeg

cheers

ASRAAMTOO
11th Jan 2021, 22:25
Like everyone else I have no idea of the planned movements of Her Majesty's submarines, but if I was an Admiral I would like to make especially sure that when the larger ones left port no nasty Russian subs were following them. Once upon a time we actually had some helicopters and Nimrods nearby to help out.

Perhaps inviting a friendly NATO country to visit for some SCT might be all we can manage for now.

orca
12th Jan 2021, 17:48
How would the presence of P-8s at Prestwick stop a Russian submarine following a Trident boat? I can understand how they (P-8s) might let you know a Russian was out and about...

tbwtg
12th Jan 2021, 20:35
Don't need P-8s to spot some of the other stuff around. I continue to be amazed that LPG-powered tankers such as "Lomonosov Prospect" can turn up in the Clyde Estuary apparently en route to Finnart near Faslane, and then hang about near Prestwick for several days, saw one recently. https://www.vesselfinder.com/vessels/LOMONOSOV-PROSPECT-IMO-9826732-MMSI-636018688 shows her today going back to Murmansk after apparently arriving from Ningbo in China. I wouldn't have thought China or Russia would need oil imports from the UK, or that the UK North Sea industry needs much top-up from either country.

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https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/550x622/lomonosovscreenshot120121_caf7c6cd86ce06ff208f298e0d16beb39f b5cee1.jpg
Screenshot 12/01/21 re Lomonosov Prospect on way back from GB-FNT, sat off Prestwick for a few days.

Surplus
14th Jan 2021, 12:19
They were probably looking for Manganese Nodules.

OvertHawk
14th Jan 2021, 12:26
How would the presence of P-8s at Prestwick stop a Russian submarine following a Trident boat? I can understand how they (P-8s) might let you know a Russian was out and about...


If the Russian is focussing on avoiding being detected by the P8 or trying to evade having been detected then his ability to acquire or track the Trident boat will be seriously compromised.

orca
14th Jan 2021, 18:47
That’s quite a big ‘if’ isn’t it? Be found in return for tracking the CASD....bargain.

Green Flash
15th Jan 2021, 07:42
What orca said. Say Captain Tupolev lurks off the Mull of Kintyre, picks up a British or American boat outbound and is detected by a P8 doing so. What happens then? Does the P8 drop on him?

Yellow Sun
15th Jan 2021, 16:29
What orca said. Say Captain Tupolev lurks off the Mull of Kintyre, picks up a British or American boat outbound and is detected by a P8 doing so. What happens then? Does the P8 drop on him?

They would act in accordance with the instructions in the operation order and employ the appropriate tactics. You don’t really expect a more detailed answer, at least not from anyone who might know?

I suggest that you might like to make a start by reading The Silent Deep by Jinks and Hennessy, ISBN 10: 1846145805 (https://www.abebooks.co.uk/products/isbn/9781846145803?cm_sp=bdp-_-ISBN10-_-PLP) / ISBN 13: 9781846145803 (https://www.abebooks.co.uk/products/isbn/9781846145803?cm_sp=bdp-_-ISBN13-_-PLP)

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