QF Boeing 787-9 flights SYD-PER-CDG, SYD-PER-FRA

[MelbourneFlyer]

Ever since Qantas began non-stop Boeing 787 flights from Perth to London in March 2018, the airline has talked up and teased the possibility of Paris and Frankfurt joining that ultra-longhaul list.
Now, in circumstances that nobody ever expected, the two European cities will briefly become a de facto part of Qantas' 'Dreamliner direct' network.


Qantas is selling the outbound legs of its latest 'rescue' flights from Paris and Frankfurt.

https://www.executivetraveller.com/news/qantas-direct-non-stop-boeing-787-flights-paris-frankfurt

[Double_Clutch]

Fake news ...

[The Banjo]

Qantas is selling the outbound legs of its latest 'rescue' flights from Paris and Frankfurt.

https://www.executivetraveller.com/news/qantas-direct-non-stop-boeing-787-flights-paris-frankfurt
well who would have thunked that a commercial airline would have the audacity to sell seats on an aircraft to generate revenue and make some money.
Qantas must have recruited someone from the Harvard School of Economics to think of that one....

[compressor stall]

MF They should be hung drawn and quartered if they didn’t. There is a lot of outbound traffic from Oz still. And direct not transiting the Middle East should be more attractive with less exposure.

Good to see.

[Turnleft080]

If you can avoid Dubai, Abu Dhabi, Doha, why not. With further improvements to aircraft and whatever comes out of the
Boeing/Airbus factories in 10 years time, airlines will start doing one sector trips to final destination. The ME3 won't find it
all cosy.

[Capn Bloggs]

People are banned from departing Australia:

https://www.smartraveller.gov.au/COVID-19

Ts and Cs apply. :}

[B772]

Your banned from leaving Australia unless you are Tony Abbott, George Pell, The Australian Cricket Team and all the hangers on plus hundreds of others.

[SRFred]

Your banned from leaving Australia unless you are Tony Abbott, George Pell, The Australian Cricket Team and all the hangers on plus hundreds of others.
Sounds like a good move, can we stop them coming back too?

[Double_Clutch]

Don’t worry - won’t need to quarantine upon arrival if you get back either

[Transition Layer]

Any other countries around the world banning their citizens from leaving? If you sign an agreement to pay for any quarantine requirements on your return, then you should be free to leave as you wish!

We really are the nanny state...:(

[Traffic_Is_Er_Was]

Thought AJ said they would only carry vaccinated passengers internationally? Oh well, there's principles and there's money I guess.

[Derfred]

... or there's what he actually said.

He said he's looking at it "...once a vaccine is available".

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-11-24/qantas-passengers-covid-19-vaccine-for-international-travel/12914020

[Global Aviator]

Thought AJ said they would only carry vaccinated passengers internationally? Oh well, there's principles and there's money I guess.

Steady on. QF and SQ are doing most of the repatriation charters. This work is simply vital to getting people home.

[maggot]

Steady on. QF and SQ are doing most of the repatriation charters. This work is simply vital to getting people home.
will still be going when the recovery is in full swing at this rate

[Angle of Attack]

People are banned from leaving unless they have an exemption, and I can tell you from a few people I know it’s not hard to get one. As long as your not travelling as a tourist you pretty much will be exempted. Any job, any training courses, university, conferences, anything not related to tourism overseas and you will be exempted.

[Climb150]

Most International airlines are running scaled back schedules at the moment. Why do we need repatriation flights? Why not just up the pax limit on some for these flights from 50 to say 150?

Why have special charters to places that already have daily services to Oz from HK, Middle East etc?

[Global Aviator]

[QUOTE=Climb150;10944554]Most International airlines are running scaled back schedules at the moment. Why do we need repatriation flights? Why not just up the pax limit on some for these flights from 50 to say 150?

Why have special cheaters to places that already have daily services to Oz from HK, Middle East etc?[/

Exactly!

[Traffic_Is_Er_Was]

... or there's what he actually said.

He said he's looking at it "...once a vaccine is available".

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-11-24/qantas-passengers-covid-19-vaccine-for-international-travel/12914020

I know what he said. So when a vaccine is available, he won't let you fly without it, but while there isn't one, he'll fly you anyway? So why bother waiting for a vaccine?
Why have special cheaters to places that already have daily services to Oz from HK, Middle East etc?
Because our government needs to be seen to be doing something?

[brevet13]

Your banned from leaving Australia unless you are Tony Abbott, George Pell, The Australian Cricket Team and all the hangers on plus hundreds of others.
What a moronic comment, plenty of people are travelling out of Australia at the moment without any issues including myself a couple of weeks ago.

[harrryw]

I am a strong believer that a right of a citizen of any country should be a right to leave freely without question and a right to return though quarantine requirements on return need to be met. accepting a reduction of these is accepting that we have no rights at all.

[bolthead]

But when you want/need to come back, are you going to demand to jump the queue (~30,000?)?

[alldaysushi]

I know what he said. So when a vaccine is available, he won't let you fly without it, but while there isn't one, he'll fly you anyway? So why bother waiting for a vaccine?

Because our government needs to be seen to be doing something?


My friends, exercise caution whilst the first itterations of this vaccine come to market.

Reuters Dec. 10 th:


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[Climb150]

My friends, exercise caution whilst the first itterations of this vaccine come to market.

Reuters Dec. 10 th:


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What does this have to do with the vaccines being rolled out now? Nothing, this was a completely seperate trial by a team in Australia. Go peddle fear somewhere else.

[harrryw]

But when you want/need to come back, are you going to demand to jump the queue (~30,000?)?
Well I would expect to jump the queue before anyone.......politician, busnessman investor or other. I alos believe they could provide more facilities especially as they are self financed. And those who leave go to theend of the queue watever reason to go.
Thjis does not mean that I should not (As in international law have a right to leave at any time.

[brevet13]

But when you want/need to come back, are you going to demand to jump the queue (~30,000?)?

How many of those 30,000 plus people on the list to come back left Oz once the government made it clear not to travel or were overseas when the government issued the warning to return to Oz immediately? The flights are there though few and expensive the problem for a lot of these people is they cannot afford or unwilling to pay the cost.

[Jay Arr]

How many of those 30,000 plus people on the list to come back left Oz once the government made it clear not to travel or were overseas when the government issued the warning to return to Oz immediately? The flights are there though few and expensive the problem for a lot of these people is they cannot afford or unwilling to pay the cost.

Logged into PPrune for the first time in months/years to reply to this.

I wish people like you would stop regurgitating this stuff. The Govt did NOT issue warnings to all Australians living as expats overseas to return immediately. The "immediate return" thing pertained to leisure and business travellers. Expats were told to remain in place.

Truly, do you recall the Aus Govt ordering all Australian pilots working for Emirates, Qatar or Cathay Pacific to immediately quit and return home? Just for one example. No, didn't think so.

The vast, vast majority of these "30,000" are expats who have subsequently been sacked, run out of contract, visas etc. How many left Aus AFTER the warning? Probably close to zero. For heavens sake, start thinking, man. Stop with this persistent nonsense. And have a bloody heart.

[Global Aviator]

Logged into PPrune for the first time in months/years to reply to this.

I wish people like you would stop regurgitating this stuff. The Govt did NOT issue warnings to all Australians living as expats overseas to return immediately. The "immediate return" thing pertained to leisure and business travellers. Expats were told to remain in place.

Truly, do you recall the Aus Govt ordering all Australian pilots working for Emirates, Qatar or Cathay Pacific to immediately quit and return home? Just for one example. No, didn't think so.

The vast, vast majority of these "30,000" are expats who have subsequently been sacked, run out of contract, visas etc. How many left Aus AFTER the warning? Probably close to zero. For heavens sake, start thinking, man. Stop with this persistent nonsense. And have a bloody heart.

One of the best responses understandings of the situation I’ve read. Well said! I bet most of on here know are least 1 pilot effected overseas, now think outside aviation, so many Aussies lives upended and they can’t get home.

For one second put yourself in their shoes. Contract terminated, notice given, job gone. Need to pack up a home, close a life off, get ready to start again. Then only to be kicked in the nuts by the ridiculous caps causing $$$$$$$$$ airfares, oh check out the cost of containers to move home, I’ve had mates tell me what the all in costs are.

Show a little compassion and don’t believe everything mainstream media reports!

[Ascend Charlie]

A friend and her husband were in the Philippines in February when the fit hit the shan. Internal flights were stopped instantly, so they could not get from their island back to Manila to come home. Their return ticket for April got cancelled, no refund until 2021. They had an opportunity to buy another ticket in May, laid out the money, it too got cancelled, no refund. No job back here in Oz to give them money, rent still due on their home here, no job over there, still had to pay for accommodation there, 2 tickets down the gurgler... no fun. Finally got home in November.

No fault of theirs at all.