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SLXOwft
27th Oct 2020, 13:29
According to DefenseNewsISLAMABAD — Pakistan’s Navy has selected the Embraer Lineage 1000 jetliner to replace its P-3C Orion long-range maritime patrol aircraft, a service spokesman has confirmed to Defense News.

Outgoing naval chief Adm. Adm. Zafar Mahmood Abbasi announced Oct. 6 (https://www.defensenews.com/naval/2020/10/14/outgoing-pakistan-navy-chief-reveals-details-of-modernization-programs/) that the Navy would replace its P-3C Orion fleet with 10 converted commercial jets, the first of which has been ordered. However, he did not identify the type.

The Ministry of Defence Production, which handles acquisition, did not return requests for comment regarding the conversion and possible partners.

With only a single aircraft ordered thus far, the program is in its early stages. When converted for Pakistani service, the aircraft will be called Sea Sultan.

It is unclear if the aircraft is being acquired directly from the manufacturer or another party. Embraer did not respond to requests for comment.

No indication of who will convert or where the sensor suite will be acquired from. I am wondering about Chinese assistance.

Lonewolf_50
27th Oct 2020, 16:10
No indication of who will convert or where the sensor suite will be acquired from. I am wondering about Chinese assistance. It won't come with the kind of political strings attached that attends US kit, so I'll bet the over on that.
ut might not the UK firms have a shot at the equipment package?

NutLoose
27th Oct 2020, 16:14
It makes a lot of sense converting commercial airliners while the bottom has fallen out of the market.

Asturias56
28th Oct 2020, 07:07
someone will make a fortune trying to adapt kit for it .........

Stuff
29th Oct 2020, 16:31
I wonder if they will spec the Kyoto Airship windows for um... surveillance reasons...

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/800x400/1603989121_7ca2e018189becc23a75ec4344ab23dc30856d54.jpeg

SLXOwft
29th Oct 2020, 16:51
Other design concepts are available

https://executive.embraer.com/global/en/lineage-1000e-concepts

But on a serious note who is going to be be willing enough - with smaller (i.e. not US or Chinese) players is anyone going to be willing to risk sales to India? I did wonder about the MPA package SAAB is marketing for the Bombadier Global 6000 based Swordfish in the Embraer airframe. However, as it includes General Dynamics mission systems ITAR raises its head.

NutLoose
29th Oct 2020, 18:26
Well the US just signed up with India

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/10/27/asia/us-india-defense-china-intl-hnk/index.html

1771 DELETE
29th Oct 2020, 21:38
India was the first overseas customer for the Boeing P8, they are not in the market for another MPA.