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Departures Beckham
17th Aug 2002, 01:34
When listening to STN's Tower frequency I often here '...after landing 737 on short finals...'. My question is what constitutes 'short finals'.

Are you on short finals within a specific time, distance, altitude of the runway threshhold, or is it just a term used to signify the close proximity of the aircraft?

FWA NATCA
17th Aug 2002, 02:33
Short Final normally means someone with 1/2 a mile of the landing thresshold.

Mike

Spitoon
17th Aug 2002, 09:34
It's not defined in the UK (I seem to recall that 'long final' is more than 4 miles) but for a B737 I would call inside a mile short final. A light single would have to be closer so maybe it's a matter of time to touchdown too.

In the example you give, when telling another pilot about the aircraft, it would have to be clearly visible too.

GoneWest
17th Aug 2002, 12:00
....and, as an aside, the word is "Final" (singular - no 'S').

chiglet
17th Aug 2002, 20:19
GW,
Sorry, but I have never heard any Pilot call "final";)
It's always XXX "finals!:rolleyes:
we aim to please, it keeps the cleaners happy

eastern wiseguy
17th Aug 2002, 20:23
quite right Chiglet. But GW is correct the call should be final.Perish the thought that we could all get our phraseology wrong:D

Go Around
18th Aug 2002, 22:20
Sorry Chiglet....my company uses the correct "Final" without an "s"..... but you're right not many do.