Move Over, Thronomister

[Pearly White]

It appears the dreaded thronomister which has contributed to so many incidents in no longer the first thing the accident investigators are checking - the flux capacitator, where an errant potato becomes stuck in the flux capacitor inlet, is more likely to be the culprit. If you don't believe me, watch this: https://youtu.be/n6aclrHYTh8

[Pinky the pilot]

Reminds me of the TV News reader reporting on the AirAsia (?) incident where she named the Flight Crew as Capt Sum Ting Wong; 1st officer We Tu Lo; 2nd Officer Ho Lee Fuk and another Crewmember was Bang Ding Ow.

I cannot remember where it was posted but I'm sure that someone more computer literate than I can locate it and possibly repost it here.

[over_centre]

The story as reported plus an apology:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Jtxds204ZMI

[Pinky the pilot]

Struth but that was quick! Thank you over_centre. :ok:

[Hot 'n' High]

On a Sqdn long, long ago we had a sick paraffin budgie which defied all faultfinding. For best part of a week it languished in the shed with various efforts to cure it being thwarted. Several days in, as usual, in the morning Engineering Brief to the Aircrew, the update for said budgie was "no change ..... and we simply cannot find the problem - we are completely in the dark on this one. ... blah, blah, blah (rest of Eng Brief), Right, any questions?".

After a pause, one of the Seniors asked "Well, XXX, what do you think is wrong with the sick budgie then?" (this despite the earlier statement about not being able to find the problem and having no clue as to what it could be). Quick as a flash, the Duty Engineer came back with a "Well, personally I think it's ....." and they proceeded to talk absolute techno-gibberish while the audience (well, the Senior) nodded sagely following every word! At the end, further opportunity to ask a question was offered ...... but utter silence! End of Eng Brief!

On the way out I accosted the Engineer. "XXX, that was brilliant! You talked utter rubbish .... but it was totally convincing! What a Star!!!!!". "Well, if the simple statement "we have no e££ing idea what's wrong" is so difficult to understand I thought I'd have a bit of fun"!

To this day I'm still in awe of the best display of convincing techno-BS I've ever seen! :ok::ok::ok:

[601]

flux capacitor inlet
Obviously the world wide recall did not find all the defective flux capacitor inlets.
Departments will be urged, contracts not renewed, Royal Commissions called for and in the end, what do we have, flux capacitor inlets somehow hiding in every jurno's tablet.
Where and when will it end?

[zanthrus]

GREAT SCOTT! This thread is HEAVY!!!!!!

[Hot 'n' High]

...... Where and when will it end?

"Nowhere" and "never" as long as we have journo's (and Seniors who ask idiot questions to try and "look clever"!).

Alters the price of fish by "zero" and gives those in the know the chance to either :ugh: or :ok: depending on the situation!

GREAT SCOTT! This thread is HEAVY!!!!!!

Now, unfortunately zanthrus, it was never made clear by the OP or the reporter whether the capacitor was rated for "light flux" or "heavy flux"! :uhoh:

[Zeus]

Might well be a problem with the Retro Encabulator?
There is a useful video on YouTube explaining how it works:

Retro Encabulator

[Clare Prop]

Reminds me of the time a Warrior did a forced landing in Melbourne and the report that the pilot had deliberately detached the wings..

.”the Police said the pilot was able to deliberately detach the wings from the fuselage as the plane crash-landed - significantly reducing the risk of fire because the wings carry the plane's fuel.”

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/victoria/four-escape-birthday-flight-crash/story-e6frf7kx-1111115104925?sv=e3b0195d9cc4b2b264fca52d38b18bad

[Sunfish]

How many times have pax asked what the red button is for - to be told it’s the wing eject button?

Seriously, a know all once told me that the reason jet engines were podded under wing was so the pilot could jettison one if it caught fire..... He swore that there were emergency jettison levers in the cockpit and nothing I could say shook his belief.

[john_tullamarine]

.. and to think that I wasted all those years reading up on the heavy techo side of things when simple explanations, such as conveyed in this thread, provide a far easier path to enlightenment .... oh, well, a career, quite obviously, totally misused and abused.... I used to work for Rockwell (I think .. sometimes hard to keep track of the name changes at times and who is buying who) ... so it was good to see their contribution to technological excellence.

Flux capacitor (https://www.jaycar.com.au/flux-capacitor/p/OUTATIME) ... just gotta have one of those.

:sad:

[Pearly White]

How many times have pax asked what the red button is for - to be told it’s the wing eject button?

Seriously, a know all once told me that the reason jet engines were podded under wing was so the pilot could jettison one if it caught fire..... He swore that there were emergency jettison levers in the cockpit and nothing I could say shook his belief.
Possibly because of this apocryphal incident: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BOAC_Flight_712

[Clare Prop]

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/350x462/wings_fall_off_2724a59b3dcc52792b81c6f55aee97caab6d34bb.png

[601]

Can be retrofitted to automotive vehicles or aircraft
That is interesting, the Jaycar model can be fitted to both vehicles and aircraft.
Seeing that they are back in stock in 1985, I wonder if I can fit one to my UberAir iThingy?

[NiclasB]

In this context I would like to present the video below, where the features of the new SAAB Gripen E multi-role fighter is presented by a real pro.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWAyPWAUfMU&t=135s&ab_channel=Pennan%26Sv%C3%A4rdet

It is in Swedish with Swedish captions. However, there is an English transcript (click the three dots to the lower right of the video, select open transcript). Enjoy! :D

[gassed budgie]

Yup, pretty much agree with all of the above. I replaced the Flux Valve Capacitor with the Positronic Type L phase discriminating amplifier years ago.
It recently had an upgrade with the much improved Illudium Q-36 Explosive Space Modulator. The views of Venus are absolutely stunning!

[601]

In this context I would like to present the video below, where the features of the new SAAB Gripen E multi-role fighter is presented by a real pro.
He missed the flux capacitator. I saw it just near the secondary entrance for the mechanic.
Trouble is if you did not see it the first time, it will have disappeared by the second time you watch it.

[Lead Balloon]

The unidentified component is a fezter valve: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbWWxGmbS9s

[Cat3508]

The unidentified component is a fezter valve: Isn't that the one next to the scroggly plate ?

[SIUYA]

Zeus provided really good information on the Retro Encabulator, but it's also worth mentioning the GE Turboencabulator.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/36/GE_Turboencabulator_pg_1.jpg/800px-GE_Turboencabulator_pg_1.jpg
The original machine had a base plate of prefabulated amulite, surmounted by a malleable logarithmic casing in such a way that the two main spurving bearings were in a direct line with the panametric fan. The latter consisted simply of six hydrocoptic marzlevanes, so fitted to the ambifacient lunar waneshaft that side fumbling was effectively prevented. The main winding was of the normal lotus-o-deltoid type placed in panendermic semi-boloid slots in the stator, every seventh conductor being connected by a nonreversible tremmie pipe to the differential girdlespring on the "up" end of the grammeters.


Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turboencabulator

[Lead Balloon]

Not in twin engined aircraft. In twin engined aircraft the fetzer valve is next to the Turbo Encabulator (not to be confused with the later-designed Retro Encablulator).

https://youtu.be/Ac7G7xOG2Ag

[Edited to add: you beat me to it, SUIYA! I was responding to Cat3508.]

[SIUYA]

Thanks for that LB......I completely forgot that important bit of technical information. :ok:

[john_tullamarine]

Good Lord but I am learning fast from this thread. Consider me a regular and technically enthusiastic reader !

[Lead Balloon]

I’m glad to see you’re still monitoring JT.

Your experience will mean that you’ve spotted the fundamental weakness in the Turbo Encabulator design: The main winding was of the (then) normal lotus or ‘delta’ type placed in panandermic semi-boloid slots of the stator, with every seventh conductor being connected by a non-reversible termic pipe to the differential girdle spring on the up end of the grammeete.

As you would be aware, the main winding should have been placed in the epidermic quadri-boloid slots of the stator, rather than the panandermic semi-boloid slots. This was the breakthrough discovery that led to the Retro Encabulator.

Of course, the later geniuses McGuirkinsquirter and Frunabulax ‘cut the Gordian knot’ by merely reversing the polarity of the discharge condenser: https://youtu.be/CAUhX6lLl_Q

[Zeus]

Lead Balloon, thanks for passing on the details of the Turbo Encabulator. Very illuminating!

In the briefing room prior to a sim session involving a Cat3B autoland, the trainer started talking along the lines of gobbledygook mentioned for the Turbo Encabulator.
We all sat there quietly thinking "bvgger me, I didn't see that in the manual!". He then started talking about "transient illumination of the alert light".
We all sat there quietly thinking best to be silent and thought an idiot rather than say something and remove all doubt.
He paused..."can anyone point to the alert light?".
There was along pause. No one volunteered.
"I have just talked complete rubbish for the last two minutes and not one of you queried it. There is no alert light. Next time I say something you don't understand please ask!"
We listened to him vary carefully after that.

[john_tullamarine]

you’ve spotted the fundamental weakness in the Turbo Encabulator design

Indeed, but I though it inappropriate to divert attention from the main discussion by highlighting it.

Giant Claw.

... and, should you have absolutely nothing better to do one evening (such as clipping your toenails or somesuch other essential activity), the whole movie is at

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFFdqKw9KcI

We listened to him vary carefully after that.

I would have thought a useful training technique in some situations ?

[Ex FSO GRIFFO]

That would have been because of the 'vary' ing current flow.....Surely..??

And no, my name is not you-can-guess-wot........ So stop!