SIA Retrenches Staff and Pilots

[dflyer]

Retrenched SIA staff get one month’s pay for every year of service, capped at 25 months (https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/manpower/one-month-pay-for-every-year-of-service-capped-at-25-months-for-retrenched-sia?utm_source=STSmartphone&utm_medium=share&utm_term=2020-09-12+04%3A03%3A10)

[ACPSET]

Unfortunately it has begun . It is a very sad time indeed.

[Farman Biplane]

Is there any information on future fleet size, capacity reduction and pilot/cabin crew reduction in numbers?
The article only mentions 30 cabin crew, which seems a very low number.

[ACPSET]

Monday they started with the Employment pass holders . More to come im sure .

[hamil]

Monday they started with the Employment pass holders . More to come im sure .

Are you talking about all expat pilots at Scoot and possibly SIA and/or Silk if still has any non-local or PR there?

[chobo97]

https://youtu.be/lkVxrUZ_mvo



[ACPSET]

The foreign pilots have all been let go as I understand that to be. The internal conflict now arises between the Permanent residents ( some of which have served 20 plus years ) and the Nationals . Unfortunately ALPA S ,as usual , has been keeping their cards close to their chest .

[krismiler]

There are no "expat" pilots left in the SIA group, they were done away with a number of years ago. There are basically three types of employee:

1. Locals, or Singapore citizens.
2. Permanent residents or non citizens who can live in Singapore with out a time limit and work for anyone they like.
3. Foreigners employed in a specific position with a permit for a set duration and a single employer.

#3 is usually the one that gets let go first.

[ACPSET]

Exactly - as of Monday category 3 have all been retrenched .

[krismiler]

Currently about half of the cadet Pilots have been let go and the rest will be once their training is complete. This gives a small pool that can be called on should there be the need.

The limited flying currently being undertaken is mostly using the B787 or A350. The A330 and B772 ER are on their way out within a year. The other B777s are too big and the A380 is too big and too expensive for current demand.

Previously, an expat was someone employed for a defined period on a contract which might be renewed subject to need. Various allowances and perks were given over those enjoyed by pilots on local terms in order to attract talent and compensate for lack of job security.

Expats are increasingly rare in Singapore as the country has developed and doesn’t need to pay a premium for hardship living. Typically they are more likely to be found in the financial field. Foreigners are generally paid the same as locals now.

[787justawetdream]

Taxied past some of our lazy yellow 787s and they look like they're being prepped for a new paint scheme.....Blue & Gold?
Looks like someone finally realised long haul LCC was a highway to nowhere

[krismiler]

The B787 is useful with the amount of freight it can carry and longer range than the A320. However with the long haul market likely to be the last to recover, there are probably surplus aircraft over what’s required for Eastern Australia, Northern China, Japan and Korea.

Recovery will start with point to point within the region, the loads won’t be great and most of it can be done with the A320s.

With Australian likely closed off until we’ll into next year and Europe looking at reimposing lockdowns, the connecting traffic isn’t there.

Norwegian were unable to make their Singapore route pay as they lacked onward connections from there.

[Flyboysg]

The B787 looks like an interim solution with the cargo space. Whether it is earning anything is not really known. However comparing break even load factor of a 787 vs 320 once airlines start flying more, and cargo rates drop one would have to wonder would it still be feasible for the next few yrs 🤔

[FlyingChipmunk]

Good points Flyboy.
To add, the converted A320s have been sitting empty (literally sans seats and cargo) and has been someone's ego massaging bright spark project gone very bad.