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ORAC
31st Aug 2020, 07:01
The “Bugger Off” to help tell illegal immigrants to bugger off......

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/army-drone-deployed-to-spot-migrants-in-channel-d3qs3nsxh

Army drone deployed to spot migrants in Channel

An army surveillance drone was due to have started patrolling the Channel overnight, looking for migrants trying to cross from France.

The Watchkeeper unmanned aerial vehicle was due to undergo a seven-hour trial from 2am this morning. Launched from Lydd airport in Kent, it was operated by 47th Regiment Royal Artillery to transmit a live feed of the sea surface back to the unit.

It is the first time an army asset has been used in support of the Home Office to tackle migrant crossings. It is also the first time Watchkeeper has been used operationally in the UK. “It will provide a leading surveillance and reconnaissance capability, feeding information back to the Border Force and allowing them to take appropriate action where necessary,” a Ministry of Defence spokeswoman said last night.

If the trial is successful, the drone could become a permanent tool in the government’s arsenal to curb perilous crossings. However, its use is highly weather-dependent. The test today would have been delayed if conditions were poor........

A move to deploy Watchkeeper drones permanently in support of the Home Office could mark a fresh start for a programme that has suffered mixed fortunes, running £400m over cost and facing chronic delays. It came into service in 2010 and was most recently used by the British army in Afghanistan. Several Watchkeepers have crashed in recent years, with one stalling after a technical problem during a bad weather flight test and plunging into the sea off the Welsh coast last year.

The drone is piloted by radio signals, which means troops must be close on the ground near by to fly it. For this reason it has been less suitable for deployment over Syria and Iraq than the Reaper, an RAF drone that is controlled by satellite and can be operated from thousands of miles away......

A Ministry of Defence spokeswoman said: “The deployment of Watchkeeper provides further Defence support to the Home Office in tackling the increasing number of small boats crossing the English Channel. It will provide a leading surveillance and reconnaissance capability, feeding information back to the Border Force and allowing them to take appropriate action where necessary.”

chevvron
31st Aug 2020, 07:37
A civilian operated twin engined drone has been doing this for about 6 months. Check NOTAMs for temporary danger areas to accomodate it.

unmanned_droid
31st Aug 2020, 10:07
A civilian operated twin engined drone has been doing this for about 6 months. Check NOTAMs for temporary danger areas to accomodate it.

Made by a Portugese company called Tekever. The government don't seem to want to talk about it much. Probably doing a good job though.

Chugalug2
31st Aug 2020, 13:21
Its purpose being to locate migrants ASAP and so intercept them all the earlier in order to provide for their rescue and safe haven in the UK?

wub
31st Aug 2020, 15:55
The Phoenix was the 'bugger off'

SPIT
31st Aug 2020, 16:38
If they see them and they land in the UK what can/will they do.????

Flying Hi
31st Aug 2020, 16:39
Its purpose being to locate migrants ASAP and so intercept them all the earlier in order to provide for their rescue and safe haven in the UK?
The elephant in the room - quite so.

SWBKCB
31st Aug 2020, 18:19
Its purpose being to locate migrants ASAP and so intercept them all the earlier in order to provide for their rescue and safe haven in the UK?

I thought that was what the military was for - helping us meet our international treaty obligations?

Flying Hi
31st Aug 2020, 18:31
I thought that was what the military was for - helping us meet our international treaty obligations?
And how are the French meeting theirs exactly?

UV
31st Aug 2020, 18:46
If you watch any of the ADSB websites you will see the drone or search aircraft any night when the wind is light(high pressure).
None ever cross the FIR boundary so presumably these people have virtually completed a home run already!

sycamore
31st Aug 2020, 19:32
The French Navy/CG escort them to the boundary just to help them on their way; if they try to return them,the migrants threaten to jump,or put children overboard......however the Fr. seem unable/unwilling to threaten the migrants that if they do,they will all be returned to Fr.and put in prison.,charged with attempted/murder.....
A lot of people in France are making a mint selling dinghies and LSJs,and a typical Gallic shrug by the `intelligence services.....

NutLoose
31st Aug 2020, 19:39
If you watch any of the ADSB websites you will see the drone or search aircraft any night when the wind is light(high pressure).
None ever cross the FIR boundary so presumably these people have virtually completed a home run already!

That’s handy, have a quick look for the search area before setting off from France.

Chugalug2
31st Aug 2020, 22:08
I thought that was what the military was for - helping us meet our international treaty obligations?

No, the job of the military is to carry out the orders of HMG, which may or may not include ITOs. HMG's call.

Martin the Martian
1st Sep 2020, 09:42
At least they've found a use for the Watchkeeper at last. Another of Lord Dannatt's pet projects, I believe.

Out Of Trim
1st Sep 2020, 10:08
Made by a Portuguese company called Tekever. The government don't seem to want to talk about it much. Probably doing a good job though.

This UAV G-TEKV is airborne right now, operating off Dungeness...

Archimedes
1st Sep 2020, 11:10
At least they've found a use for the Watchkeeper at last. Another of Lord Dannatt's pet projects, I believe.

Contract was signed under his predecessor (General Jackson) in 2005, although ISTR that there were several mutterings during Lord D’s tenure to the effect that he really ought to start thinking about sacrificing it for (say) more investment in SH.

3wheels
2nd Sep 2020, 21:50
Record 409 crossed today...

So where were the watch keepers??

Flying Hi
2nd Sep 2020, 21:54
Record 409 crossed today...

So where were the watch keepers??

Watching, of course.

Out Of Trim
3rd Sep 2020, 11:32
Record 409 crossed today...

So where were the watch keepers??

I'm not sure if they have been deployed yet. Mind you, all it can do is watch and the watchers can inform our authorities. I don't think that will help us much unless The Home Office manage to formulate a plan to deter the migrants. Let's face it, France will just continue to turn a blind eye!

Flying Hi
3rd Sep 2020, 12:11
I'm not sure if they have been deployed yet. Mind you, all it can do is watch and the watchers can inform our authorities. I don't think that will help us much unless The Home Office manage to formulate a plan to deter the migrants. Let's face it, France will just continue to turn a blind eye!
And come post No Deal, can we expect them to withdraw shore patrols and sea patrols.? Why wouldn't they ? - 'bon debarras'.