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Beaker_
11th Aug 2020, 20:11
I've recently completed my PPL with a view to moving onto professional training. My initial thought was to transfer my licence from the UK CAA to another EASA state but given the current circumstances I'm not so sure. 6 months ago I was planning to be making a start on my ATPL's about now. I don't see much point in rushing into commercial training right this moment for obvious reasons, so am going to just enjoy my PPL for a while. Once it feels like improvement could be on the horizon, I'll get a move on with the ATPL studies and CPL/ME/IR course etc. Being realistic, it's going to be a year, probably longer until I start doing this.

So, the CAA have said they'll accept the transfer of EASA licences for 2 years post-Brexit without any major hurdles, but EASA aren't doing the same which seems to drive the current advice of completing studies in an EASA state and if I was studying for my ATPL's that would seem like reasonable advice. Given that I don't even see myself starting my ATPL's for at least a year and likely not completing them before the end of the 2-year cutoff I can't see any benefit in transferring my licence to another EASA state.

Am I missing something here, or would I be correct in assuming sticking with the UK CAA is probably a better fit for me?

I did notice the thread below Post-Brexit: Austro or CAA? but felt my circumstances felt slightly different so was interested in people's thoughts.

selfin
11th Aug 2020, 20:55
Unless you will begin a modular CPL training course before Implementation Period completion day (31 Dec 2020 * (https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2020/1/section/39)) it hardly seems worthwhile changing the state of licence issue now. This is because any ICAO Annex 1-compliant PPL is sufficient to commence the modular CPL course.

See Part-FCL appendix 3 section E in the current consolidated EASA Aircrew Regulation (link (https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=CELEX:02011R1178-20200622)):

E. CPL modular course — Aeroplanes
GENERAL
...
2. Before commencing a CPL(A) modular course an applicant shall be the holder of a PPL(A) issued in accordance with Annex 1 to the Chicago Convention.
...

You may also begin the Part-FCL ATPL theoretical knowledge course as the holder of an ICAO Annex 1-compliant PPL. After IP completion day when the UK will no longer be an EASA member state you may concurrently hold a UK Part-FCL PPL and an EASA Part-FCL CPL.

Numerous UK-based training organisations will be approved by EASA after IP completion day. A list of these is published near the bottom of the EASA ATOs webpage (link (https://www.easa.europa.eu/domains/aircrew-and-medical/approved-training-organisations-ato) — or navigate on www.easa.europa.eu (https://www.easa.europa.eu/) to EASA Pro -> Domains -> Aircrew & Medical -> Approved training organisations).

In foregoing a change of SOLI now I expect you'd be required to undertake another initial Class 1 medical later. Centreline Aviation Medical Services, which appears on that list, can advise.

Beaker_
12th Aug 2020, 22:26
That's great; thank you.