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STENDEC North
4th Aug 2020, 17:32
No word on the pilot yet.

https://ukaviation.news/vintage-sea-fury-crashes-at-duxford/

LOMCEVAK
4th Aug 2020, 17:38
I have heard that both crew are OK.

Tashengurt
4th Aug 2020, 17:51
Forum gossip says crew OK but some serious damage with the front cockpit apparently separated at the front canopy edge.

Nige321
4th Aug 2020, 18:16
Very lucky I'd say...
Slightly ironic that they swapped the Centaurus out for a P&W because the Bristol was prone to engine failure... :uhoh:

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/960x720/117108474_10220035736057369_577575375108082001_n_c8d889b41d0 cc0ff783dc4d19f5163d9a13bfdd9.jpg

STENDEC North
4th Aug 2020, 18:16
Great news about the crew, any landing you can walk away from and all that. She's been bent before, RNHF 1990.

STENDEC North
4th Aug 2020, 18:17
Nige, you've answered my question, wondered why it had a Double Wasp installed.

Nige321
4th Aug 2020, 18:27
Nige, you've answered my question, wondered why it had a Double Wasp installed.
The P&W is (was...) fitted on a Sanders 'Quick Change' engine mounting, the Bristol could be put back in very easily apparently.
More info here... (https://vintageaviationecho.com/sea-fury-t20-wg655/)

STENDEC North
4th Aug 2020, 18:27
Apparently news reporting a 'Sea Hawker' aircraft down. Good to know the journo's are as useless as ever, all they had to do was Google the registration they'd been given....

​​​​​​https://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/news/cambridge-news/live-updates-duxford-plane-crash-18715882

MPN11
4th Aug 2020, 18:55
Some of the worst Media cut-and-paste drivel I’ve ever seen. Is the Editor on furlough? Well done Cambridge News.

Meanwhile ... pilots are more valuable than aircraft, however rare. Glad they’re OK.

Brings back sad memories of Spenser Flack putting G-FURY into ‘my’ approach lights at XW.

DuncanDoenitz
4th Aug 2020, 19:00
"The plane was a Sea Fury crash UK Hawker Sea Fury T.20 (G-INVN)" . Apparently it made a False Landing. (Not to be confused with a Precautionary False Landing).

What a blessed age we live in.

BigDotStu
4th Aug 2020, 19:32
Some of the worst Media cut-and-paste drivel I’ve ever seen. Is the Editor on furlough? Well done Cambridge News..

Usual standard for them - it's one of the 'local' news sites which is now part of a large corporation with lots of shared syndicated stories. Very little decent (or often even local!) content. Best wishes to the crew, although it sounds like they got away with it. Wondering if that is what I heard flying around earlier.

GeeRam
4th Aug 2020, 20:29
Great news about the crew, any landing you can walk away from and all that. She's been bent before, RNHF 1990.

30 years ago a few weeks back, and almost in the same way, coming to rest in a field after smashing into tress, after an engine failure after take-off.

Good news the crew are OK looking at the state of the fuselage around the front cockpit area.

Nige321
4th Aug 2020, 20:31
30 years ago a few weeks back, and almost in the same way, coming to rest in a field after smashing into tress, after an engine failure after take-off.

Good news the crew are OK looking at the state of the fuselage around the front cockpit area.
Apparently the same serial and data plate, but not much more from the original WG655...

Skipness One Foxtrot
4th Aug 2020, 20:53
Apparently the same serial and data plate, but not much more from the original WG655...
This is surely a replica?

Nige321
4th Aug 2020, 20:59
This is surely a replica?
Well most 'restored' Spitfires are new builds around a data plate...!

treadigraph
4th Aug 2020, 21:00
Even less of the original now... :(

I know it's sacrilege but it did sound good with the R2800 and an amazing broad chord four blade prop off, if I recall, a Grumman Guardian... Hopefully Sanders or somebody else will stitch her back together in time.

So pleased the crew are in one piece - they'll have to swap notes with John Beattie (I do hope it wasn't John at the helm this time!).

treadigraph
4th Aug 2020, 21:03
This is surely a replica?

Rear fuse and tail off original WG655 mated to an ex Iraqi fuselage and centre section I believe...

Martin the Martian
4th Aug 2020, 21:07
My gosh, but that aircraft really, really has a thing about trees, doesn't it?

DODGYOLDFART
4th Aug 2020, 22:03
Wasn't this the Sea Fury put for sale recently? Or was it perhaps the new owner or prospective owner trying it out - sure hope not?

Islandlad
5th Aug 2020, 04:24
Forum gossip says crew OK but some serious damage with the front cockpit apparently separated at the front canopy edge.
... and other parts
Rear fuse and tail off original WG655 mated to an ex Iraqi fuselage and centre section I believe...
.. now very unmated again ....
My gosh, but that aircraft really, really has a thing about trees, doesn't it?
I'm sure they will make a full recovery.

GeeRam
5th Aug 2020, 09:26
So pleased the crew are in one piece - they'll have to swap notes with John Beattie (I do hope it wasn't John at the helm this time!).

No, John hadn't achieved the 'hat-rick' of Sea Fury prangs, it was Norwegian Spitfire Foundation chief pilot, Eskil Amdal flying it. Looking at the state of the cockpit area he was a lucky man to get out of it and walk away.

airborne_artist
5th Aug 2020, 10:31
I don't think the pilot of the Chinese Mig shot down by a Sea Fury would call it a light aircraft ;)

sycamore
5th Aug 2020, 11:10
P & W 2800 is pushrods and tappetts....

treadigraph
5th Aug 2020, 16:53
Video of departure from Duxford and the aftermath - very lucky it wasn't much worse.

https://youtu.be/h6H0YAE2p0g (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6H0YAE2p0g&feature=youtu.be)

ORAC
5th Aug 2020, 21:22
Remarkably fair and accurate report in The Times https://www.pprune.org/accidents-close-calls/634561-hawker-sea-fury-t-20-wg655-g-invn-down-near-duxford-2.html?highlight=Sea+Fury

Second World War fighter plane crashes in Cambridgeshire field


A pilot and a passenger suffered minor injuries when their Second World War-era fighter plane crashed in a field in Cambridgeshire yesterday.

The Hawker Sea Fury was operated by the Norwegian Spitfire Foundation. It set out from the Imperial War Museum’s airfield at Duxford, ten miles south of Cambridge. The plane, among the last propeller-driven fighters to serve with the Royal Navy, suffered an engine failure with one passenger on board. The pilot, Captain Eskil Amdal, made an emergency landing near by.

Footage and pictures from the crash site showed the aircraft split in pieces with its nose in trees on the edge of a field. Captain Amdal and his passenger climbed out of the plane and were taken to Addenbrooke’s Hospital with minor injuries. A spokesman for the foundation, a charity dedicated to maintaining historic planes and commemorating the Norwegian air force, said: “Chief pilot Eskil Amdal did a very good job getting the aircraft down. Eskil and his passenger suffered only minor injuries.”

A spokeswoman for East of England Ambulance Service said: “We were called to Harston about 4.20pm yesterday after receiving reports of a plane crash. We sent two ambulances, two hazardous area response teams, an ambulance officer and rapid response vehicle. Crews treated two patients at the scene before transporting them to Addenbrooke’s Hospital for further assessment and care.”

The first prototyes of the Hawker Fury and Sea Fury were built in 1942. In 1944, the RAF ordered 200 of the Fury models. Another 200 Sea Fury planes were ordered for the Fleet Air Arm. During the Korean War the Sea Fury was the Navy’s only single-seat fighter plane. It was eventually replaced by the Hawker Sea Hawk jet fighter.

A spokeswoman for the Imperial War Museum (IWM) said: “Following an incident involving a Hawker Sea Fury aircraft which departed from Duxford airfield yesterday afternoon on a routine flight, the Air Accidents Investigation Branch will undertake a full investigation.

“The aircraft had to carry out a procedural forced landing on local farm land and sustained significant damage and a fuel leak. An IWM Duxford fire team with specialist equipment and knowledge assisted Cambridgeshire Fire and Rescue Service at the scene. The pilot and passenger remain in a stable condition having sustained minor injuries.”

H Peacock
5th Aug 2020, 23:15
Quite a distinctive smoke trail behind the aircraft during the takeoff run and climb-out in the video. That looks like impending engine failure before they even left the ground!

Looked a fairly large field they tried to put it down in, but it clearly had plenty of energy when it arrived at the tree-line. Such a shame.

capngrog
5th Aug 2020, 23:27
It's very fortunate that it did not burn. The above story mentions "a fuel leak", which sounds to me that the fuel tanks (in the wings?) were largely intact.

Hopefully, this beautiful aircraft will be repaired/rebuilt.

Regards,
Grog

Hueymeister
5th Aug 2020, 23:57
Lots of soot down the port side, and smoke from the port exhaust stack on departure.

GANNET FAN
6th Aug 2020, 10:41
Tail mark is of my father's old station HMS Gannet at Eglinton, N.Ireland

VictorGolf
6th Aug 2020, 16:33
Looking at the damage to the front fuselage, is it a "construction joint" adjacent to the instrument panel or was it cut through by the rescue crew? Either way the pilot looks as though he was lucky not to get severe leg injuries.

NutLoose
6th Aug 2020, 22:13
They were never an aircraft to force land as they had a fearsome rep for killing people, especially with gear problems, hence when the RN Historic lost one years ago, John Beattie went over the side.

https://www.navy-net.co.uk/community/threads/sea-fury-crash-lands.75236/

treadigraph
7th Aug 2020, 13:01
Couple of images below courtesy of a member of another forum showing the damage when WG655 force landed in a field near Castle Carey in 1990 - much worse! The landing was in a very suitable field, unfortunately a cross slope led to a slide inexorably into the only two trees for miles. The back seater did suffer some quite serious injuries.

If I recall correctly, John Beattie's decision to abandon TF956 over the sea at Prestwick was due to one leg been stuck down and the other up - a landing in that configuration is a no no due to the type's propensity for going over on to its back - I can think of two, possibly three fatal Sea Fury accidents where the aircraft has turned over in a landing accident.

Finally, I gather that the back seater in WG655 on Tuesday was a fairly well-known PPRuNer who has suffered a bit of a bruised back - hope both guys are fully recovered quickly and none the worse for the experience!

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skua
12th Aug 2020, 07:17
I think that, once the Editor has collected his faculties, there will be a rather interesting piece from Mr Whiteman about the joys and perils of passenger warbird flying!

Pilot DAR
12th Aug 2020, 11:21
Skua, feel free to quote (yes, which may mean you have to type it out...) a brief section of the article, so readers here may consider your thoughts. Pilot Magazine is not easily available to all PPRuNe readers.

BoeingBoy
12th Aug 2020, 15:33
As far as I read on other forums it was Dave Unwin (who is a regular contributor to Pilot Magazine) riding pax, not Mr Whiteman but I stand to be corrected.

Saab Dastard
12th Aug 2020, 16:49
Dave Unwin is correct: https://www.granthamjournal.co.uk/news/pilot-tells-of-miracle-130mph-crash-landing-in-vintage-fighter-plane-9119210/

treadigraph
12th Aug 2020, 16:52
It was Dave Unwin - link to item in his local paper below.

Get well soon, Dave!

https://www.granthamjournal.co.uk/news/pilot-tells-of-miracle-130mph-crash-landing-in-vintage-fighter-plane-9119210/

Edit: SD you sneaky so and so, how'd you manage to copy my post when I hadn't even posted it! :p

Saab Dastard
12th Aug 2020, 17:56
Genius, dear boy, genius. ;)

It is possible to make it appear that I posted a link to an event before it actually happened, although in this case it was purely down to being quicker off the mark! :cool:

skua
13th Aug 2020, 11:44
Sorry, I was misinformed.

DaveUnwin
25th Aug 2020, 19:29
Thank you Treaders.

blue up
16th Sep 2020, 17:08
Just below the cockpit on the left side it says "Invincible". How apt.

DaveUnwin
24th Jan 2021, 11:49
If anyone's interested, Eskil's account of handling this very difficult situation can be found in the current issue of Pilot magazine.

treadigraph
24th Jan 2021, 12:29
I'll look that out... trust you are both now fully recovered Dave?

DaveUnwin
25th Jan 2021, 08:47
Getting there Treaders.....

treadigraph
26th Jan 2021, 11:04
Good to hear! :ok:

treadigraph
17th Sep 2021, 14:03
AAIB report published...
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/612f8f04d3bf7f0387e8aa37/Hawker_Sea_Fury_T_Mk.20_G-INVN_10-21.pdf