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Same again
16th Jul 2020, 09:14
Can anyone tell me the average cruise fuel consumption for the AW109S Grand with PW207 engines? Thank you.

FlyLow&Slow
16th Jul 2020, 11:37
Can anyone tell me the average cruise fuel consumption for the AW109S Grand with PW207 engines? Thank you.
Mass 3000, 2000ft, OAT 20°C, ECS ON, TAS 140 kts (Recommended cruise), Tq 69, 220 kg/h;
Mass 3000, 2000ft, OAT 20°C, ECS ON, TAS 130 kts (Max range cruise), Tq 61, 200 kg/h;
Most pilots though cruise at 150 KIAS (155 KTAS), Tq 90, 250 kg/h.

Same again
16th Jul 2020, 12:57
Thanks very much.

ShyTorque
16th Jul 2020, 18:44
Mass 3000, 2000ft, OAT 20°C, ECS ON, TAS 140 kts (Recommended cruise), Tq 69, 220 kg/h;
Mass 3000, 2000ft, OAT 20°C, ECS ON, TAS 130 kts (Max range cruise), Tq 61, 200 kg/h;
Most pilots though cruise at 150 KIAS (155 KTAS), Tq 90, 250 kg/h.

From fourteen years of flying nothing but this type, I’d say that most don’t need 90/90% Tq to achieve 150 knots IAS, unless at MAUM.

I set approximately 83/83 and see 150kts indicated. Setting 90/90% is very likely to put the aircraft very close to, if not beyond, Vne, especially in turbulence because these aircraft are slippery beasts. The IAS warning is likely to be activated often and each excursion will of course be logged in the DAU memory.

83/83% will use something closer to 230 kg/h.

ApolloHeli
16th Jul 2020, 19:43
From fourteen years of flying nothing but this type, I’d say that most don’t need 90/90% Tq to achieve 150 knots IAS, unless at MAUM.

I set approximately 83/83 and see 150kts indicated. Setting 90/90% is very likely to put the aircraft very close to, if not beyond, Vne, especially in turbulence because these aircraft are slippery beasts. The IAS warning is likely to be activated often and each excursion will of course be logged in the DAU memory.

83/83% will use something closer to 230 kg/h.

FlyLow&Slow did say "Mass at 3000"

ShyTorque
16th Jul 2020, 20:02
FlyLow&Slow did say "Mass at 3000"

I’m not sure what your point is. The MAUM of a 109S is 3175 Kgs.

Same again
17th Jul 2020, 07:31
Thanks for the input. I have been flying the 109E and before that the 139 so there are many similarities in flying techniques. 230kgs at 83% seems like a good figure to plan on for the 109S. Much appreciated.

garsr1
17th Jul 2020, 16:51
ShyTorque is spot on. If its bumpy I run it at 80%, if smooth 85%. Runs around at 155kts all day long.