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White Knight
1st Jul 2020, 15:16
Seems to be coming up on my feed: ALERT Garuda Indonesia Airbus A330 ran off runway during taxi at Sultan Hasanuddin International Airport
From Aerotime Hub: The Airbus A330 operated flight GA610 from Soekarno Hatta International Airport (CGK) in Jakarta, Indonesia. The Garuda Indonesia wide-body landed at the airport at 5:07 PM local time (UTC +8). Allegedly, the nose gear of the aircraft slipped when it was turning away from the runway and the A330 ended up on the grass.

Two separate sources...

1st Jul 2020, 15:29
seems like it occurred while doing a 180!

1st Jul 2020, 16:43
Look more like an excursion while taxying via 03 for a 31 departure, not on arrival.

1st Jul 2020, 22:47
I'm not entirely sure that this is headline news!

1st Jul 2020, 23:27
Look more like an excursion while taxying via 03 for a 31 departure, not on arrival.

Correction - right direction, but looks like an attempted 180 to line up for a 21 departure rather than continuing to taxy for 31:


Though, if Avherald's analysis is to believed, it was taxying in the opposite direction from the FR24 track, backtracking for an 03 departure and went off at the 03 threshold. I have no idea how they reached that conclusion.

Incident: Garuda A333 at Makassar on Jul 1st 2020, runway excursion during backtracking for departure (http://avherald.com/h?article=4d9669c6&opt=0)

White Knight
2nd Jul 2020, 02:33
I'm not entirely sure that this is headline news!

I would agree; the bold headline was simply a cut and paste:}

The aeroplane was however pretty well bogged down!

2nd Jul 2020, 07:17
seems like it occurred while doing a 180!
Nose wheel may go off runway when negotiating a 180 turn, but can be stopped before main wheels go off runway, if taying speed is controlled to 20 knots which is the limit for heavy aircraft.

Veruka Salt
2nd Jul 2020, 08:01
There is no 20 knot taxi limit for the A330, heavy or light.

In a straight line, ~ 30 knots is a recommended maximum, for a 90 degree turn, ~ 10 knots. The same numbers as most other big jets. None are limits per se.

For a 180 deg turn, ~ 8 knots keeps the turn going.

2nd Jul 2020, 09:31
Wasn't this one fairly new to them from AA or Delta?

2nd Jul 2020, 11:51
I'm not entirely sure that this is headline news!

Because it is a Indonesian airline and excursions happen more regularly or because it happened during taxi? ;)

one wheel in the grass is a headline in most places. Precautionary landing due medical is on the news described as an emergency landing.

2nd Jul 2020, 16:28
Another view showing the A333's final position adjacent to the 21 piano keys (screen-grab from a news video):

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/504x358/ga613_final_position_by_21_piano_keys_765b0e4dc47af6b9cfe354 044dd7f47d7e2b9603.jpg

Worth noting that:

a) unlike 13/31, neither end of 03/21 has a turning pad, although there is a taxiway at each end that provides a bit more diameter than just the runway width


b) the GA610/613 rotation is normally operated by a B738 rather than an A333

Meanwhile, Avherald's "analysis (https://avherald.com/h?article=4d9669c6&opt=0)" stoutly maintains that it all happened at the 03 end instead. :ugh:

2nd Jul 2020, 17:00
Seems way more than a simple misjudgement ,180 or anything else for that matter.

3rd Jul 2020, 07:55
Recovery in progress:

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/617x252/garuda_a333_recovery_third_size_d9ebb7fc80cf51eed92f8da29a67 a0ae7ac440fc.jpg

And yes, that really is a 40-year-old B732 (of the Indonesian AF) landing on 31 in the foreground as the A333 is towed off the 21 threshold.

The long arrow on the aerodrome chart points (entirely coincidentally) to the spot where the A333 ended up: