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HemanthAvi
23rd Jun 2020, 11:08
Hi all,
I have this opportunity to train in Reims Cessna F172M Skyhawk with CD155 diesel variant engine in Europe. Could you just answer a few questions :

1. Only C172 Skyhawk's R or S variants, their subsequent diesel engines variants and related changes are available and "Design Accepted" in India for Type Certification and registration. Cessna F172M is not recognised and listed in the Indian Civil Aviation Requirements pdfs of original design or Supplemental design acceptance.
2. If I return to India for Conversion, should I undergo specified amount of Endorsement training on available Indian registered cessna 172 R or S before giving General Flying Checks? If yes how much hours of Endorsement training?
3. While researching I came to know Cessna 172RG cutlass, Reims FR172Jand K variants are marketed as C172s but are actually Type Certified as C175. What is the case for Cessna F172 M skyhawk? Whether it is Type Certified as C172 or C175?

​​​​​​I appreciate any people with knowledge in designs of cessnas can answer regardless of Nationality and people familiar with their local Air law or regs can also please try and answer my concern...
I am most thankful for Indians or people with accurate guidance for Indian Regulations.

P.S.: I kindly request you not to suggest me to train in an aircraft registered and accepted in India. Please impart knowledge on the above scenario.

Duchess_Driver
23rd Jun 2020, 13:24
It matters not whether the 172M with diesel conversion is recognised in India - what’s important is that it is accepted by the state in which the training organisation holds their approval.

Any training done on “approved” aeroplanes will count towards the issue of a licence and/or rating and so long as that licence is ICAO compliant then there are usually mutual acceptance for conversion or recognition.

Jhieminga
23rd Jun 2020, 19:25
For the purposes of getting a licence, it doesn't really matter how that particular Cessna is certified (what designation is on the TC) as it will be a class rating that you end up with.

HemanthAvi
23rd Jun 2020, 19:36
Thank you Duchess_Driver and Jhieminga ... Thats really helpful. And Jhieminga are you sure for the case of Indian DGCA conversion? If I may stress?

Jhieminga
24th Jun 2020, 16:31
No I’m not, as I am not familiar with Indian regulations. But it would really surprise me if they do not consider it a class rating.

HemanthAvi
24th Jun 2020, 16:49
I hope so too Jhieminga Here we write technical specific exam (POH)for each variant.. even if we want to undergo Endorsement training in a different variant of same class. So I am not sure how they ll print in normal licenses, like whether as a class rating, as you said, or mentioning the variant with the class of a/c. Thank you.
​​​​​​Still anyone's knowledge is welcome especially Indians.