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lakelandno1
21st Jun 2020, 21:20
Hello,

I'm 28 and a Flt Lt in a ground trade. Am I too old to try and rebranch as Pilot?

Homelover
21st Jun 2020, 21:54
I think you should ask your desk officer....

unclenelli
22nd Jun 2020, 16:26
Why not join up as a Pilot in the first place? Aptitude, Fitness, Interview, Teamwork.....???
How long as a Flt Lt?
I had an LAC joined us, previously rejected for commission - she thought working as a civvie in OM would help, so she thought joining the ranks, then commissioning was a good way to go...........
So LAC rocks up at JR Commissioning Club and gets told "JOG ON!!!!!! - Get some (i.e. many years) experience first"

Toadstool
22nd Jun 2020, 16:48
Why not join up as a Pilot in the first place? Aptitude, Fitness, Interview, Teamwork.....???
How long as a Flt Lt?
I had an LAC joined us, previously rejected for commission - she thought working as a civvie in OM would help, so she thought joining the ranks, then commissioning was a good way to go...........
So LAC rocks up at JR Commissioning Club and gets told "JOG ON!!!!!! - Get some (i.e. many years) experience first"

unclenelli

if the OP is already a Flt Lt, then fitness, interview, teamwork will have already been addressed and passed at Cranwell. The only thing I can think of is aptitude for Pilot during CBT or on OASC.

Haraka
22nd Jun 2020, 17:44
'As one ,among several others, who were chopped near the end of J .P in the early 70's ( big multi's cut back) then approached three or so years later in our adoptive ground branches and asked to consider " Giving it another go" ,what galled me was when the term "Loyalty" was invoked. Sorry , my loyalty was to the branch that had taken me in and trained me.

MPN11
22nd Jun 2020, 19:02
Having been involved in “Re-Branching” in the distant past, one consideration would be the potential return of servce after a VERY lengthy and expensive training programme. I might suggest that young Bold pilots are needed more than Old ones, and I could guess there’s still a lengthy queue of younger blood at the CIOs.

Pontius Navigator
22nd Jun 2020, 19:32
Hello,

I'm 28 and a Flt Lt in a ground trade. Am I too old to try and rebranch as Pilot?
Home Lovers answer is the best one. The others are no more than general advice as they have no idea what you might bring to the party.

NutLoose
22nd Jun 2020, 19:36
I have no idea, but I would like to wish you good luck in your endeavours.


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Bill Macgillivray
22nd Jun 2020, 20:19
I think that "Homelover" is correct. Surely, with your experience and seniority, this forum (with due respect to all its members and their experience ), is not the place to ask this question!

Bill

longer ron
22nd Jun 2020, 21:29
Looks like the thread starter has been banned already :)

Easy Street
23rd Jun 2020, 02:19
Looks like the thread starter has been banned already :)

Any bets that it’s BVRAAM using a sock puppet to try a different tack in yet another attempt to have it confirmed that he’s left it too late to become a military pilot? :E

rolling20
23rd Jun 2020, 08:25
I am not sure if it was posted on here, but there was a few years ago a serving RAF individual, who may or may not have been commissioned, who was above the age for pilot training, late 20's IIRC.
However , this individual had an ATPL, frozen I guess. Permission was sought and they were accepted for RAF pilot training.
Not sure how they got on. Maybe someone else can remember the details?

Chris Kebab
23rd Jun 2020, 08:35
There is no doubt that, regardless of the published age limits, over the years I have seen the odd older individual creep through the system satisfactorily so there is always some hope. Homelover's reponse at #2 is the only answer to the exam question even if the OP is a fake.

AF03-111
23rd Jun 2020, 08:58
Surely it a Flt Lt would be in a ground branch rather than a trade? Bit of a giveaway...

longer ron
23rd Jun 2020, 08:59
Can't keep up with it on here - looks like he has been unbanned and is now 'New Here' :)

MPN11
23rd Jun 2020, 13:14
Surely it a Flt Lt would be in a ground branch rather than a trade? Bit of a giveaway...That rang bells for me too, but applied the theory that they’re just not as well trained these days! 😉

flyingkeyboard
23rd Jun 2020, 14:01
I am not sure if it was posted on here, but there was a few years ago a serving RAF individual, who may or may not have been commissioned, who was above the age for pilot training, late 20's IIRC.
However , this individual had an ATPL, frozen I guess. Permission was sought and they were accepted for RAF pilot training.
Not sure how they got on. Maybe someone else can remember the details?

If it’s the individual I’m thinking of then I think he ended up flying Sentinels.

flyingkeyboard
23rd Jun 2020, 14:06
Why not join up as a Pilot in the first place? Aptitude, Fitness, Interview, Teamwork.....???
How long as a Flt Lt?
I had an LAC joined us, previously rejected for commission - she thought working as a civvie in OM would help, so she thought joining the ranks, then commissioning was a good way to go...........
So LAC rocks up at JR Commissioning Club and gets told "JOG ON!!!!!! - Get some (i.e. many years) experience first"

Very different now; plenty of JRs go for a commission. Some as LACs.

KG86
24th Jun 2020, 07:49
A number of years ago, the Inter-Services Gliding Championship was held at Middle Wallop. The trophy was to be presented by the Director Army Air Corps, a 2-star general then. The winner was an RAF corporal. Presenting the trophy, the general asked him if he was a pilot in the RAF. "No sir. The RAF doesn't have corporal pilots." The general continued "Well the Army does. Transfer to the Army Air Corps and you will become one." So the corporal did, and became a corporal pilot.

The B Word
24th Jun 2020, 19:01
I am not sure if it was posted on here, but there was a few years ago a serving RAF individual, who may or may not have been commissioned, who was above the age for pilot training, late 20's IIRC.
However , this individual had an ATPL, frozen I guess. Permission was sought and they were accepted for RAF pilot training.
Not sure how they got on. Maybe someone else can remember the details?

Yup, he’s doing ETPS :ok:

Senior Pilot
24th Jun 2020, 21:43
Looks like the thread starter has been banned already :)

Not that I can see?

Mind you, like so many newbies he signed up, posted and signed out so has not had the benefit of the sage advice that he (or she) asked for three days ago :hmm:

Lima Juliet
24th Jun 2020, 22:02
Hello,

I'm 28 and a Flt Lt in a ground trade. Am I too old to try and rebranch as Pilot?

Yes, you need to have started Flying Training by 27. For Direct Entry the maximum age is 26. You could apply for Pilot (ISR) RPAS as the max age is 33 to start flying training by 34 - the same as WSO. However, be warned, the Computer Based Aptitude Tests (CBAT) are looking for response times of someone considerably younger, so if you failed the test before you went ground branch (trades are not for officers - are you sure you are a Flt Lt!) then it is highly unlikely that you will have improved over time.

You need to contact your Branch and Trade Advisor, plus your Career Manager, to see if you would be released if successful at OASC. Even then, only the best candidates are taken forward in small batches every 6 months - so passing OASC is no guarantee of a training place. Air Sec Staff Instruction 613 applies.

Lima Juliet
24th Jun 2020, 22:03
Not that I can see?

Mind you, like so many newbies he signed up, posted and signed out so has not had the benefit of the sage advice that he (or she) asked for three days ago :hmm:

It did say ‘banned’ a few days back. That was why I didn’t reply. :ok:

Herod
24th Jun 2020, 22:11
Perhaps the title, referring to "Fg" gives us a clue. Flt Lt? I think not

longer ron
25th Jun 2020, 08:41
Not that I can see?

Mind you, like so many newbies he signed up, posted and signed out so has not had the benefit of the sage advice that he (or she) asked for three days ago :hmm:

I know SP - by (my) post # 15 he was unbanned again,presumably you did not notice my later update post :)
Seems to be getting quite the norm on many forums these days where people join - ask a question and then just disappear.

Fareastdriver
25th Jun 2020, 10:40
Some people keep repeating themselves.