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dead_pan
30th May 2020, 08:33
Russia begins building first stealth bomber (https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/russia-begins-building-first-stealth-bomber/)

ORAC
30th May 2020, 10:00
Seems a large crew for the modern day. The B-2 manages 30 hour flights with a crew of 2.

https://www.defensenews.com/air/2019/04/29/heres-how-b-2-bomber-pilots-pull-off-grueling-33-hour-flights/

https://www.airspacemag.com/military-aviation/the-stealth-bomber-elite-315558/

MPN11
30th May 2020, 11:16
Thanks, ORAC ... both good reads.

NumptyAussie
30th May 2020, 11:40
Seems a large crew for the modern day. The B-2 manages 30 hour flights with a crew of 2
and some drugs...

"For especially long missions, James said doctors will prescribe medication “in the event that those members need that little bit of extra push to help them stay focused on the mission.”

Martin the Martian
30th May 2020, 12:07
The big question is how long will it take to get it into service, how many will they buy and will they be able to fund it enough to be a useful asset rather than just another extension to Putin's member? Yes, I know those are three questions, but I guess it will all be wrapped up in the same answer.

And who at Sukhoi has been looking at photos of the Armstrong Whitworth A.W. 52?

oxenos
30th May 2020, 12:31
how long will it take to get it into service

I didn't see one today, so perhaps it is already in service.

scifi
30th May 2020, 19:18
They have promised to sqwalk 6666 once they are west of Norway..
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Una Due Tfc
30th May 2020, 19:59
Those winglets don’t look very stealthy.

Compass Call
30th May 2020, 21:23
The large crew is due to the requirement of a Political Commissar and his deputy to ensure the flight crew carry out their orders and don't defect! :ok:

57mm
31st May 2020, 16:58
Full circle. Russian scientist's paper on absorption and reflectivity of radar energy, written in the 50s, I believe, was the source of embryonic stealth work in the USA.......

ATSA1
31st May 2020, 17:11
Just curious...why continue with stealth? Especially after a F117 was shot down over the Balkans in1999, and the USAF has retired it?

ORAC
31st May 2020, 19:37
Just curious...why continue with stealth? Especially after a F117 was shot down over the Balkans in1999, and the USAF has retired it?
First generation stealth. Flat surfaces effective at deflecting radar beams but not absorption and with limitations. In particular from directly underneath - which is where the Serbs placed their radar after the F-117s used the same route several days running. A lesson, as they say, was learnt from that.

Better computers for modelling means later aircraft have compound curve profiles and surfaces with inbuilt radar absorbent features.

As the science is one of measures, counter-measures, counter-counter-measures and diminishing returns.

London Eye
1st Jun 2020, 13:32
First generation stealth. Flat surfaces effective at deflecting radar beams but not absorption and with limitations. In particular from directly underneath - which is where the Serbs placed their radar after the F-117s used the same route several days running. A lesson, as they say, was learnt from that.

Better computers for modelling means later aircraft have compound curve profiles and surfaces with inbuilt radar absorbent features.

As the science is one of measures, counter-measures, counter-counter-measures and diminishing returns.

Well played Sir, well played.

Surplus
1st Jun 2020, 14:04
and the USAF has retired it?
Still flying March 2020.

https://www.key.aero/article/f-117a-nighthawk-spotted-march-2020-keyaero

ATSA1
1st Jun 2020, 16:27
Thanks for the info...yes I had heard that some F117s were still flying, but in a training capacity?

Green Flash
1st Jun 2020, 16:55
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/33593/f-117s-flew-directly-over-los-angeles-on-another-mission-off-the-southern-california-coast