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A320LGW
14th Apr 2020, 10:43
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Any idea of date and circumstances?

giggitygiggity
14th Apr 2020, 11:44
Any idea of date and circumstances?

Tug's connected so looks like a pushback incident. Looks like the A380 is parked behind its line so assume the A350 was pushed back incorrectly/too far.

launchpat
14th Apr 2020, 11:57
How come BA are still flying to all these places especially USA? Flight to Lima launched off this morning? Are they just flying freight or are they still rescuing "expats" or confused travelers that are just realizing the magnitude of this virus?

ACMS
14th Apr 2020, 12:16
Tug's connected so looks like a pushback incident. Looks like the A380 is parked behind its line so assume the A350 was pushed back incorrectly/too far.


BA is an A350
EK is a 777....

atakacs
14th Apr 2020, 12:21
How come BA are still flying to all these places especially USA? Flight to Lima launched off this morning? Are they just flying freight or are they still rescuing "expats" or confused travelers that are just realizing the magnitude of this virus?
Yes mostly rapatriation and freight.
​​​There is still some very minimal pax activity but almost nil.

As for the incident reported here where did it happen?!

krismiler
14th Apr 2020, 12:21
With all those EK aircraft lined up it looks like Dubai.

ivor toolbox
14th Apr 2020, 12:33
Pushback crew strike again. Poor lookout on their part.

Ttfn

Emily Hall
14th Apr 2020, 12:40
Yes mostly rapatriation and freight.
​​​There is still some very minimal pax activity but almost nil.

As for the incident reported here where did it happen?!



It was freight only!

Dubai Airport

Last night

champair79
14th Apr 2020, 12:45
So what is going on here? BA295 has just launched off over our houses, a BA 777 going to Chicago O Hare but is shown on BA website as cax or non existent????

itís a freight-only flight. Most of them are flying with passenger flight numbers rather than adding the customary ĎFí suffix to the callsign. However in the systems, itíll be listed as BA295F in your example.

champ

AtoBsafely
14th Apr 2020, 13:13
So, in the composite vs aluminium debate do we declare that a tie? Or do we need to see which flies first?

VentureGo
14th Apr 2020, 13:44
With all those EK aircraft lined up it looks like Dubai.

Article reported in Simple Flying:
https://simpleflying.com/british-airways-airbus-a350-collision/

cashash
14th Apr 2020, 14:07
No great problem for EK - they have plenty of other 777's sitting around doing nowt..:(

The AvgasDinosaur
14th Apr 2020, 15:53
A touch ironic. With over 80% of the worlds fleet grounded. Two that arenít manage an unauthorised coming together.
David

DType
14th Apr 2020, 16:32
Friend hoping to be repatriated from Lima tomorrow

DaveReidUK
14th Apr 2020, 17:13
it’s a freight-only flight. Most of them are flying with passenger flight numbers rather than adding the customary ‘F’ suffix to the callsign. However in the systems, it’ll be listed as BA295F in your example.

champ

A number of BA's remaining flights are indeed operating with an F suffix (BA027F, BA099F, etc). So far, the BA295 and the corresponding return flight BA294 are operating without that suffix.

tttoon
14th Apr 2020, 17:34
A number of BA's remaining flights are indeed operating with an F suffix (BA027F, BA099F, etc). So far, the BA295 and the corresponding return flight BA294 are operating without that suffix.

In our company at least, an F-suffix indicates a ferry flight, so cargo nor pax on board, which makes a difference in traffic rights etc.

champair79
14th Apr 2020, 17:59
In BA at least, the following apply.

C - Charter
E - Engineering
F - Freighter
P - Positioning (ferry flight)
T - Training

There might be a few I’ve missed out but that covers most of it. Often you won’t see these suffixes in the flight’s callsign though, just in the backend systems.

champ

champair79
14th Apr 2020, 18:04
ASo far, the BA295 and the corresponding return flight BA294 are operating without that suffix.

Itís got an F suffix according to FICO. On FR24 for example, it will show it without the suffix.

Airbubba
14th Apr 2020, 18:41
A common convention with international carriers is that 9000-series flight numbers often mean no pax, i.e. a ferry or cargo flight.

RexBanner
14th Apr 2020, 19:21
Feel for the skipper involved, an absolute top top bloke. Not that it was in any way his fault.

Chu Chu
14th Apr 2020, 19:53
A touch ironic. With over 80% of the worlds fleet grounded. Two that arenít manage an unauthorised coming together.
David
Well, it was a ground collision.

Jesse Pinkman
14th Apr 2020, 20:16
So, in the composite vs aluminium debate do we declare that a tie? Or do we need to see which flies first?

You're kidding?! That is so very clearly an Airbus win. Pull forward again, start the donkeys and go.

DaveReidUK
14th Apr 2020, 21:33
Itís got an F suffix according to FICO. On FR24 for example, it will show it without the suffix.

Gosh, I remember FICO from the 1970s - humungous CRTs with multicoloured keyboards. :O

I wasn't quoting FR24, but HAL's WebTrak system, where up to yesterday the BA295 wasn't shown with an F suffix. But, sure enough, today's is - I stand corrected.

cashash
14th Apr 2020, 21:45
You're kidding?! That is so very clearly an Airbus win. Pull forward again, start the donkeys and go.


I dont understand this argument - both types have composite Elevators and they are wrecked on both aircraft. :confused:

beamender99
14th Apr 2020, 22:25
27 January 1972 FICO (Flight Information and Control of Operations), the real-time computer control of day-to-day flight operations, was launched.

Anti Skid On
15th Apr 2020, 07:42
A common convention with international carriers is that 9000-series flight numbers often mean no pax, i.e. a ferry or cargo flight.
The Air New Zealand repatriation flights to FRA have all been returning with flight numbers in the 6000 range.

Wannabe Flyer
15th Apr 2020, 08:07
What the hell.....with all this talk of Social Distancing, one would have thought that would have been foremost on all their minds!! Assuming it applies to equipment too :)

Count von Altibar
15th Apr 2020, 14:06
https://www.aerotime.aero/aerotime.team/24578-british-airways-unluckiest-a350-xwb-4-incidents-in-3-months

Looks like they haven't had much luck with this aircraft...

GKOC41
15th Apr 2020, 15:18
27 January 1972 FICO (Flight Information and Control of Operations), the real-time computer control of day-to-day flight operations, was launched.
O gawd you'll mention Tracey next is that still going......

PAXboy
15th Apr 2020, 20:14
BA also have the suffix D for Delayed. Saw this Feb when we were delayed out of CPT until the following day. The usual rotation used the 042 number and we were 042D.

Pilot DAR
15th Apr 2020, 20:37
Qualified pilots are welcomed to make observations about flying the plane, or not, should they deem it to be unairworthy resulting from damage. Qualified maintenance technicians are welcome to make observations about repair methods following damage.

DaveReidUK
15th Apr 2020, 20:42
BA also have the suffix D for Delayed. Saw this Feb when we were delayed out of CPT until the following day. The usual rotation used the 042 number and we were 042D.

Though nowadays it's more common for a flight delayed from the previous day to be identified with a Y (for yesterday's) suffix. Here's an example, also from February:

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/365x332/ba042y_7163473c94f048e6315dd323f2d3138163fc8429.jpg

ATC callsign in this instance was Speedbird 42 Delta. Go figure. :O

STN Ramp Rat
15th Apr 2020, 21:47
https://www.aerotime.aero/aerotime.team/24578-british-airways-unluckiest-a350-xwb-4-incidents-in-3-months

Looks like they haven't had much luck with this aircraft...

except your link is for G-XWBD and the aircraft in this incident was G-XWBA,