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Akrotiri bad boy
31st Mar 2020, 18:30
Using FR24 this afternoon I went for a quick spin around Europe to see who was where. The relatively empty airspace allowed for an easy ID of odd looking tracks and icons none more so than the A4 which rose quickly out of Wittmund heading North East. Of course I googled "Wittmund A4's" and learnt a little about them, but there's so many more questions to ask. Does anyone have any knowledge or experience of this Canadian operation at Wittmund?

Thanks in advance :ok:
Akro
wub
31st Mar 2020, 18:36
I was watching them too

Discovery Air Defence - (http://www.dutchaviationphoto.com/discovery-air-defence/)
Good Vibs
31st Mar 2020, 20:39
Seen them both in & out of Wittmund.
They both sound very different that the normal GAF jets.
And small they are!
RAFEngO74to09
31st Mar 2020, 23:04
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SM54Ie-zx7Q

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4CocbSyNYU
wub
1st Apr 2020, 12:47
Up again today


https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1860x1086/screenshot_2020_04_01_at_13_45_21_copy_cf9310a6bb0a7d2dbc5f5 d0838240ed9e22382cb.jpg
sitigeltfel
2nd Apr 2020, 06:29
A Draken International A4 has been operating out of Nimes in the past few weeks, mostly over the Med South of Marseille/Toulon
chopper2004
2nd Apr 2020, 08:35
Using FR24 this afternoon I went for a quick spin around Europe to see who was where. The relatively empty airspace allowed for an easy ID of odd looking tracks and icons none more so than the A4 which rose quickly out of Wittmund heading North East. Of course I googled "Wittmund A4's" and learnt a little about them, but there's so many more questions to ask. Does anyone have any knowledge or experience of this Canadian operation at Wittmund?

Thanks in advance :ok:
Akro

Here are my photos from iLA 2016 of the then Discovery Air Service Now riveted back to its original company name after manegemnt employees buy out to Top Aces A-4N ( ex IDF/AF)


https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/960x720/c9964124_f35b_4bba_8931_d3da0dd6a240_15aac0c0556fd5738ebb2b4 a98d6325c9ae4939c.jpeg
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/960x720/7b56c297_e4fb_422c_8103_39b7491f841c_6cfc467933c4a79ef83d665 6178b6f8f6d822e5b.jpeg
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/960x720/d9dc26dc_75a4_475e_a918_6315548c4409_892a75a87c5d0387ad9dab6 39afc1d716ce27f11.jpeg

cheers
chopper2004
2nd Apr 2020, 08:43
They now also offer F-16


https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/940x788/c4693762_5cb5_43b4_803d_f52d0220670f_fad1b5ef85c4760d1225ecd fbdfdc93cc3f38924.jpeg
DuckDodgers
4th Apr 2020, 16:49
Here are my photos from iLA 2016 of the then Discovery Air Service Now riveted back to its original company name after manegemnt employees buy out to Top Aces A-4N ( ex IDF/AF)


https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/960x720/c9964124_f35b_4bba_8931_d3da0dd6a240_15aac0c0556fd5738ebb2b4 a98d6325c9ae4939c.jpeg
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/960x720/7b56c297_e4fb_422c_8103_39b7491f841c_6cfc467933c4a79ef83d665 6178b6f8f6d822e5b.jpeg
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/960x720/d9dc26dc_75a4_475e_a918_6315548c4409_892a75a87c5d0387ad9dab6 39afc1d716ce27f11.jpeg

cheers

Management didn't buy them out, there was some very criminal behaviour led by Clairvest that shafted all debenture holders in Discovery Air. In fact, the late Chairman of the Joint Chiefs, Mike Mullen, was indicted along with several others.
DuckDodgers
4th Apr 2020, 17:07
Chopper - they don't have a single aircraft imported let alone regenerated, modernised nor certified with the FAA, and more importantly the USAF TAA at Wright Patt. Department of State HAS NOT authorized Third Party Transfer to a Canadian Private Entity and all aircraft are still in ISRAEL. This BS has been going on for over 6 years, they even promised UK MOD "a demonstration of their capability" back in 2015 and their behaviour and duping of the former ASDOT PT is widely accepted as to one of two reasons the programme was scrubbed.
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/732x1370/dads_9953d1a8387512b85c2bab50bbf73a7d21166d89.jpg
Martin the Martian
6th Apr 2020, 11:19
Wonder if that might be the future at Culdrose or Yeovilton once the Hawk goes?
Cerney218
7th Apr 2020, 11:49
Three active now north of Bremerhan.
Less Hair
7th Apr 2020, 11:54
Must be a fun job.
tartare
8th Apr 2020, 04:16
Gee - seeing those photos is a reminder of how snug that cockpit really is.
Mr Heinemann didn't leave any extra room.
You'd want to make sure you had your legs and arms tucked right in if you needed to get out in a hurry.
ex-fast-jets
8th Apr 2020, 18:23
I flew the A-4M (and other things) with the USN at VX-5 78-81 - and I absolutely loved it. It was a great aircraft to fly and operate.

If I was 20/30 years or more younger, I can think of no better job than flying these machines as a civilian - and surprising those flying Generation-X fighters with what an old and small A-4 can do.

The powerful leading edge slats were my only minor gripe - as they gave me the occasional headache from bouncing my swede against the cockpit sides because I pulled "g" slightly asymmetrically!

A-4's Forever, etc, etc...................