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Arnie Madsen
23rd Mar 2020, 16:00
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WHY SOAP AND WATER ??

SOAP AND WATER ..... does not simply "wash away" a virus ..... much more than that .... virus is surrounded by a thin membrane which is penetrated and damaged by soap rendering it inactive ..... (ps: alcohol sanitizers operate the same way) ... more here .... https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/mar/12/science-soap-kills-coronavirus-alcohol-based-disinfectants

Arnie Madsen
23rd Mar 2020, 16:01
ONE OF THE BEST SITES .... for hourly COV1D9 statistics on this link ..... scroll down for country by country info ..... https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Arnie Madsen
23rd Mar 2020, 16:07
ORIGINS OF CHLOROQUINE PHOSPHATE CONTROVERSY ....

The incidence of COVID-19 is dramatically lower in malarial countries than in non-malarial countries, according to one researcher.
This may well vindicate President Donald Trump’s decision to fast-track the use of the anti-malarial drug chloroquine phosphate for the treatment of coronavirus.
The correlation was spotted by Dr Roy Spencer, meteorologist and a principal research scientist at the University of Alabama in Huntsville. ...... more here ...... https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/03/20/delingpole-chloroquine-malaria-coronavirus-stunning-correlation-claimed/

Arnie Madsen
23rd Mar 2020, 16:11
EXCELLENT SITE for HOW THE VIRUS GOT OUT .......

(before anyone knew it was a pandemic)
(by tracking cell phone movements Wuhan China to world wide)
(very accurate)

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/03/22/world/coronavirus-spread.html?action=click&module=Spotlight&pgtype=Homepage

Arnie Madsen
23rd Mar 2020, 16:16
WHY IS ITALY HIT SO BAD ??

(Second highest outbreak next to China)

Media says ....

Blah blah blah Italians are old.

Blah blah blah Italians are sick.

Blah blah blah Italians have dirty air.

Blah blah blah Italians are bad at numbers.

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NEVER MENTIONED IS :

Prato, the historical capital of Italy’s textile business, has attracted the largest concentration of Chinese-run industry in Europe within less than 20 years.

As many as 50,000 Chinese live and work in the area, making clothes bearing the prized “Made in Italy” label which sets them apart from garments produced in China itself, even at the lower end of the fashion business.

In some ways, the Chinese community of Prato has succeeded where Italian companies have failed. Italy’s economy has barely grown over the past decade and is only just emerging from recession, partly due to the inability of many small manufacturers to keep up with global competition.

And then there’s the fact that their hospitals are so overwhelmed that the elderly are turned away.

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Make of that what you will.

Guessing that Italy represents the way the United States and some other countries is going to go is not nearly as good a bet, though; we're on average younger, fewer of us smoke, and our population is more spread out.

source ..... https://pjmedia.com/trending/italy-numb ... CgSJVe8d_g (https://pjmedia.com/trending/italy-numbers-and-confusion-why-is-italy-the-hotbed-of-covid-19/?fbclid=IwAR1la0l45OsZ8rMVNU8VmEUPw4h3iZKG_JrY7vi7a4-7mZhIJCgSJVe8d_g)

Bravo73
23rd Mar 2020, 16:21
Arnie,

We all know by now how serious Coronavirus & C19 are but why are you posting these in the Rotorheads/Helicopter section?

Arnie Madsen
23rd Mar 2020, 16:22
Speaking of Italy ....

Police helicopter stalks people who violate the stay-at-home order

VIDEO ... https://www.liveleak.com/view?t=9ajRw_1584904248

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Compare that to USA ..... Military & National Guard triggered to distribute (military) stockpiles of medical necessities .... and help critical food and supplies transport to where needed ..... Navy positioning it's hospital ships nears hardest hit Oceanside cities .... talk about good leadership .... best wishes to all .... including Italy

Arnie Madsen
23rd Mar 2020, 16:32
Arnie,

We all know by now how serious Coronavirus & C19 are but why are you posting these in the Rotorheads/Helicopter section?

Thanks Bravo73 ...... my motive is to bring (hopefully) (and helpful) info to helicopter pilots to share with friends and family. Hope it works . Pilots are intelligent , observant , tend to be accurate , and in every place in the world.

CONFESSION: ... I thought all soap and water did was wash away germs and viruses .... how wrong I was !!!!

PIZZES ME OFF why media do not share this type of info .... rather than just political sensationalism .... so I decided to do some here. thanks

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(EXAMPLE)
Pall Thordarson is a Professor in Chemistry at the University of New South Wales, Sydney

(From the article)

So why does soap work so well on the Sars-CoV-2, the coronavirus and indeed most viruses? The short story: because the virus is a self-assembled nanoparticle in which the weakest link is the lipid (fatty) bilayer. Soap dissolves the fat membrane and the virus falls apart like a house of cards and dies – or rather, we should say it becomes inactive as viruses aren’t really alive.

Washing the virus off with water alone might work. But water is not good at competing with the strong, glue-like interactions between the skin and the virus. Water isn’t enough.

Soapy water is totally different. Soap contains fat-like substances known as amphiphiles, some of which are structurally very similar to the lipids in the virus membrane. The soap molecules “compete” with the lipids in the virus membrane. This is more or less how soap also removes normal dirt from the skin.

The soap not only loosens the “glue” between the virus and the skin but also the Velcro-like interactions that hold the proteins, lipids and RNA in the virus together.


Alcohol-based products, which pretty much includes all “disinfectant” products, contain a high-percentage alcohol solution (typically 60-80% ethanol) and kill viruses in a similar fashion. But soap is better because you only need a fairly small amount of soapy water, which, with rubbing, covers your entire hand easily. Whereas you need to literally soak the virus in ethanol for a brief moment, and wipes or rubbing a gel on the hands does not guarantee that you soak every corner of the skin on your hands effectively enough.

So, soap is the best, but do please use alcohol-based sanitizer when soap is not handy or practical.

• Pall Thordarson is a professor of chemistry at the University of New South Wales, Sydney

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... infectants (https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/mar/12/science-soap-kills-coronavirus-alcohol-based-disinfectants)

Arnie Madsen
23rd Mar 2020, 17:08
Arnie,

We all know by now how serious Coronavirus & C19 are but why are you posting these in the Rotorheads/Helicopter section?

Hi Bravo73 ... a bit more trivia ...

I live in central Canada (Manitoba) and was feeling smug and safe ..... as far away as a person can be from the pandemic. Nothing to worry about .... or so I thought ... we are sparsely populated for the most part .....

eg: ....... Manitoba = pop 1.3 million over 250,950 sq mi (649,950 sq km) ....
by comparison UK = pop 67.5 million over 93,628 sq mi (242,495 sq km)

Then Winnipeg Manitoba announced 3 cases of coronavirus ..... all contacted from recent overseas travel. I am over 60 miles from Winnipeg .... still no concerns ....... UNTIL a week later 19 cases , 2 of which are right in my area. I am no longer so smug !!!

Decided to take some precautions .... stock up on food and refill my drug prescription ..... What a shock .... many store shelves are bare Including a Very large WalMart ..... and instead of 6 units of (puffer) (Salbutamol) medication at my pharmacy I got the last one. ..... I am 68 , lungs are shot , puffer meds keep lungs clear .... home oxygen if needed , not a worry overall but without Salbutamol puffer I cannot survive ..... turns out people with coronavirus use the same medication and stocks are running low.