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brown1950
23rd Mar 2020, 13:14
Starting Wednesday Etihad have announced all flights will be suspended.

Flying Clog
23rd Mar 2020, 15:48
What? Really? Why?

kpd
23rd Mar 2020, 16:02
https://www.thenational.ae/uae/health/coronavirus-uae-passenger-flights-grounded-malls-to-close-and-stay-home-order-given-1.995954

so whole of UAE on lockdown - surely means Emirates will shut too?

Flying Clog
23rd Mar 2020, 16:18
Haven't you been following the news? Yes, the UAE included both Emirates and the unmentionable airline. All airlines in the UAE to stop passenger ops from Wednesday.

I dare say this is the final nail in the coffin for the a380 for all the world's airlines. It will probably never fly again, anywhere, after Wednesday.

Compton3fox
23rd Mar 2020, 16:53
Haven't you been following the news? Yes, the UAE included both Emirates and the unmentionable airline. All airlines in the UAE to stop passenger ops from Wednesday.

I dare say this is the final nail in the coffin for the a380 for all the world's airlines. It will probably never fly again, anywhere, after Wednesday.
I thought EK backtracked on the "Complete shutdown" LHR was among the few destinations still running after Wednesday.

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/03/22/intl_business/emirates-dnata-coronavirus/index.html

Airbubba
23rd Mar 2020, 17:09
I thought EK backtracked on the "Complete shutdown" LHR was among the few destinations still running after Wednesday.

They change their mind every few hours. Latest I've heard is complete pax service shutdown for EK and EY per direction of the GCAA.

https://www.thenational.ae/lifestyle/travel/uae-to-ground-all-passenger-flights-in-and-out-of-the-country-1.995963

Flying Clog
23rd Mar 2020, 17:54
EK had to back track on the back track.

There was some shameful behaviour by a crew laying over in Auckland yesterday that made the world news. And stories of mass overcrowding at EK HQ while crew were force tested like cattle (slaves the locals call them), all in close proximity, queuing for 3 hours, and allegedly released to fly worldwide ops pending the results which take hours, just to keep the operation going to make MONEY. Damn the consequences!

You can only imagine how that played out in the media - undiagnosed crew fanning out over the entire world network, allegedly. Not well at all. Completely unbelievable, unless you're familiar with the MO at EK, or have worked at Emirates for more than 5 minutes, then it's par for the course.

Either way, shame on Emirates. And rightly deserved that they're now in the sin bin. And likely the 380 won't fly again. Twins only, and only on leaner ops.
The 747 pax version has been given a fresh leash of life as a quasi freighter using the lower deck and empty seats upstairs. The 777-300er pax can be quite impressive in this regard as well. The 380 is about much use as tits on a bull in terms of freighter work, which a very low cargo carrying capacity considering the overheads. Under the current climate it's dead. LH/AF/BA already grounded them. EK is heavily invested with 380s, a willy waving exercising that backfired maybe? More fool on you.

Bye bye a380, you were f'ing ugly, comfy for the pax, a pain in the arse to park and fly behind. Take your bow and go off into the desert gracefully. Long live the almighty Boeing 747.

With the price of oil so low, and the UAE no longer producing it or having mates who can flog the black stuff to them cheap.. And the massively reduced passenger demand/transit/tourism over the next 6-12 months... Emirates is cooked. It's going to take forever to recover amongst the ME3. You might as well get out now.

Phantom Driver
24th Mar 2020, 00:37
Bet you enjoyed that

krismiler
24th Mar 2020, 01:58
I dare say this is the final nail in the coffin for the a380 for all the world's airlines. It will probably never fly again, anywhere, after Wednesday

Almost certainly long term storage for a couple of years and only back on a few limited routes where the numbers add up if and when it does return.

Probably the final nail for the B737 MAX as well. Why waste billions in patching up a fundamentally flawed design for which future demand has evaporated ? There may have been a case for a solution when the order book was in the thousands, but not any more.

The US government will likely take over Boeing due to its importance to the economy and as a defence supplier. The downturn could be used to develop an all new replacement aircraft.

I agree that the future is now all twins, with A320/B737s being used to the limits of their range and B787s taking over from there. These types are already in existence in significant numbers and economical to operate even though fuel price won’t be much of an issue for a while. High density seating in the narrow bodies and 9 across in the B787 with possibly a couple of rows of business class will be the new norm. Suites and lie flat seats won’t be filling up anytime soon.

cruisepower
24th Mar 2020, 03:07
Some of you still being happy through hatred even in these times? Airlines in Europe and the US will struggle more to get back on their feet and by this time EK would take no delay in taking the opportunity. I am actually worried about the huge growth that is going to hit Emirates after this virus crisis gets over. Wait and see!

JRK
27th Mar 2020, 17:57
Bye bye a380, you were f'ing ugly, comfy for the pax, a pain in the arse to park and fly behind. Take your bow and go off into the desert gracefully. Long live the almighty Boeing 747.




Sad. I really liked the Whale as a pax. Especially EK's C cabin, which was pretty comfy and private...