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Office Update
16th Mar 2020, 06:43
Qantas Dash 8-400, VH-QOE returned to land after crew reported smoke in cockpit. According to NOTAM the aircraft is parked on Taxiway 'Foxtrot'

So what happens now? If the aircraft is not back in Australia with crew and Pax by the Prime Minister's deadline, do they all have to go into 14 day self quarantine.?

Forced Labor
16th Mar 2020, 06:56
Pax - yes

Crew - No

Alice Kiwican
16th Mar 2020, 07:05
Qantas Dash 8-400, VH-QOE returned to land after crew reported smoke in cockpit. According to NOTAM the aircraft is parked on Taxiway 'Foxtrot'

So what happens now? If the aircraft is not back in Australia with crew and Pax by the Prime Minister's deadline, do they all have to go into 14 day self quarantine.?

Yes would be my answer! Not sure though🤔

t_cas
16th Mar 2020, 07:10
If they crew back (On GENDEC), no quarantine. If they passenger back, quarantine for 14 days.

Duck Pilot
16th Mar 2020, 07:50
Aircraft is parked on stand near the PX cargo shed, doesn’t look like it’s going anywhere tonight.

Logohu
16th Mar 2020, 09:05
So what happens now? If the aircraft is not back in Australia with crew and Pax by the Prime Minister's deadline, do they all have to go into 14 day self quarantine.?

There were only 8 passengers on board and they all got sent via Brisbane on a later flight

beached az
17th Mar 2020, 01:04
So what happens now?
The Rascol's set fire to balus bilongim Q-Link :O

Duck Pilot
17th Mar 2020, 08:25
May not be a hurry to move it given today’s announcement, aircraft is still in POM.

I would imagine that any engineers who come up to PNG to repair it would be forced into 14 day isolation when they get back to Oz, probably the same for the flight crew who ferry it back.

Kagamuga
17th Mar 2020, 12:20
Here's an idea! Sell the dash to Link PNG, they have just bought two, and now they have a potential third on the ramp; paint out the 'rat' and change the VH to P2, and a cash injection for Qantas in times of great need!,

Office Update
19th Mar 2020, 11:41
MEDIA RELEASE

PNG ACCIDENT INVESTIGATION COMMISSION INVESTIGATING SERIOUS INCIDENT INVOLVING QANTAS LINK AIRCRAFT IN AN INTERNATIONAL FLIGHT

The Chief Commissioner of the PNG Accident Investigation Commission (AIC), Mr. Hubert Namani today announced that the AIC was investigating a serious incident occurred on 16th March 2020, approximately 40 nautical miles South Port Moresby, NCD.
Mr. Namani said “On 16th March 2020 at 11.20 am local time, the aircraft, a twin-engine Bombardier Dash 8-400 aircraft operated by Sunstate Airlines Pty, Qantas Link flight QLK192D, departed from Jackson’s International Airport, Port Moresby, NCD, with destination to Cairns International Airport, Queensland, Australia.
“According to the information gathered at the initial stages of the investigation, approximately 20 minutes after departure, smoke was detected in the cabin of the aircraft, which led the crew to return to Port Moresby, where the aircraft landed at 11.46 am.
“No injuries nor damage were reported as consequences of this occurrence.”
Annex 13 to the Convention on International Civil Aviation defines a serious incident as:
An incident involving circumstances indicating that there was a high probability of an accident and associated with the operation of an aircraft which, in the case of a manned aircraft, takes place between the time any person boards the aircraft with the intention of flight until such time as all such persons have disembarked, or in the case of an unmanned aircraft, takes place between the time the aircraft is ready to move with the purpose of flight until such time as it comes to rest at the end of the flight and the primary propulsion system is shut down.
Being a signatory State of the Convention on International Civil Aviation, PNG has an international obligation to comply with Annex 13 provisions, which include independent and no-blame investigation of serious incidents.
The Civil Aviation Act 2000 (as amended) require these investigations to be conducted by the AIC with complete independence from any other Statutory organisation, to determine the circumstances and causes of accidents and incidents with a view to avoiding similar occurrences in the future, rather than to ascribe blame to any person.
Mr Namani said “the AIC team appointed to conduct this investigation will examine operational, technical, organisational and environmental factors involved in the occurrence, to establish the circumstances in which the occurrence happened. As part of its functions, AIC will also establish and make publicly available Safety recommendations to assist avoiding the recurrence of similar events, for the benefit of PNG citizens and for all users of this mean of transport.”
In accordance with International Standards, the AIC will issue a Preliminary report within 30 days.

ACMS
20th Mar 2020, 00:11
May not be a hurry to move it given today’s announcement, aircraft is still in POM.

I would imagine that any engineers who come up to PNG to repair it would be forced into 14 day isolation when they get back to Oz, probably the same for the flight crew who ferry it back.

flight crew exempt.......

Duck Pilot
20th Mar 2020, 16:30
Assume the crew involved are back in Oz, balus stup long px hangar nau

Mumbai Merlin
1st Apr 2020, 01:18
Aircraft still in POM. Surprised the rascols have not stripped the balus.

Ascend Charlie
1st Apr 2020, 10:38
Balus im bagarup tru. Em i paiawut!*






*old jungle saying. "The aircraft is unserviceable. It is firewood."

Mumbai Merlin
7th Apr 2020, 23:54
QF must have plenty of spare Dash 8-400 aircraft to leave this one sitting in POM. Mind you the parking fees are cheaper than Cairns

Petropavlovsk
14th Apr 2020, 11:02
Almost a month now,
Hope they did a 'dunny' dump and removed the inflight snacks; must be getting on the nose now inside the cabin

Kiwiconehead
14th Apr 2020, 22:15
Almost a month now,
Hope they did a 'dunny' dump and removed the inflight snacks; must be getting on the nose now inside the cabin

The PX boys would have taken care of the snacks quicksmart.

PX Engineers were supposed to be starting the engine change a week or so ago, not sure how that was progressing.

Duck Pilot
15th Apr 2020, 09:38
Hasn’t moved still parked outside the PX/Islands Nationair hangar.

I’m looking at it now whilst I pour a cold SP down from my balcony.

Anyone know exactly what caused the event?

Duck Pilot
16th Apr 2020, 07:48
Sorry I couldn’t get a better picture, CBs, TS and RA currently here.
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1213x1618/2fe55a79_4315_4c7f_8db5_5bbe677e0a36_32adcc28c74aaefae2dd777 fd6142bbb131b23d4.jpeg

Duck Pilot
20th Apr 2020, 06:42
Q400 is now in the PX healing shed:ok:

Petropavlovsk
20th Apr 2020, 09:33
So we had better check the component serial numbers before we leave ...............

Mumbai Merlin
2nd May 2020, 00:27
Hey Duck,

Is the QF still in the shed at POM?

Duck Pilot
3rd May 2020, 04:10
Still here in POM although it was out of the shed on Friday.

Duck Pilot
6th May 2020, 07:04
Balus stup long haus just nau.
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/2000x1504/113c92ed_ef90_443c_9e33_01603b708309_0e83cd5c41ca317e8cf7c05 efdffb4b4f8dfb104.jpeg

Office Update
6th May 2020, 07:54
IF the QF Dash is currently surplus to requirements, perhaps leave it in POM for Link PNG to operate as a spare aircraft.
Any regulatory issues is just purely paperwork, inter government.
With QF bleeding $40 million a week [Joyce report to ASX yesterday 5th May] any income is better than none.

Duck Pilot
6th May 2020, 08:30
Bit more than a paperwork shuffle for a PNG AOC holder to operate a foreign registered aircraft.

The flight crew and certifying engineers would need to hold Australian licenses before the show got on the road, then there would be the CASA PNG Part 119 requirements and then all the rest of it.

PX and PNG Air currently have a heap of airframes parked up due to lack of demand, couple this with one of the above mentioned airlines having all their pilots of on forced leave without pay, unless called in. Very problematic to say the least!

The current PNG domestic pax demand is very low. It will be very interesting to see which airlines in PNG are still in business at the end of the year. I will say no more, however there is certainly going to be casualties. The next 8 weeks will be very interesting.......

Office Update
6th May 2020, 09:22
Interesting; only two airlines in PNG....

'Air Niugini' and its domestic 'Link PNG' would count as one airline. Government owned and will not be allowed to collapse.
PNG Air, owned by Nasfund? and I thought the ATR's were on a power by the hour lease arrangement, no fly no pay?

Hevilift, owned majority by Nasfund? not sure if they counts as an airline but a charter operator, with FIFO clients.
Missionary Ops will always be there. The NGO's are filthy rich.

Having said that;
I see Lynden Air Cargo Lockheed C-130 (P2-LAD) arrived back in Anchorage over the weekend
Columbia Helicopter appear to be leaving the civil H47 Chinook P2-CHY in Scone, NSW, probably for the next bushfire season.

Duck Pilot
6th May 2020, 09:47
Bomb shell just released to all staff within one mentioned airline.

It will be interesting to see how CASA PNG react....

Mumbai Merlin
6th May 2020, 11:41
Since this is a rumour network.
PNG Air will be renamed "Tropicair" and Ops normal!
Appears RH has bought the Mobil petrol outlets ???

Mumbai Merlin
6th May 2020, 11:59
Media Release from PNG Air on their Facebook page....

Mumbai Merlin
11th May 2020, 11:53
https://postcourier.com.pg/air-niugini-engineers-do-maintenance-on-q400-aircraft/
Post Courier press release

Kagamuga
20th May 2020, 03:29
Duckie,

Is the QF Dash 8-400 still in POM?

Duck Pilot
22nd May 2020, 22:22
Don’t know, I’m no longer in PNG.

Mumbai Merlin
5th Jun 2020, 00:19
VH-QOE has planned POM to CNS for late morning. Not bad, three months for an engine change....