HH-60W - Jolly Green II

[RAFEngO74to09]

HH-60W has now officially been named "Jolly Green II" - named after the “green feet” impressions the HH-3E "Jolly Green" would leave after landing in the Vietnam era and later the HH-53 "Super Jolly Green".

The USAF is ordering 108 x HH-60W.

More here:

https://www.af.mil/News/Article-Display/Article/2096008/hh-60w-jolly-green-ii-follows-footprints-of-rescue-giants/

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOgbD2Qb3w4

[RAFEngO74to09]

Lockheed Martin video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Epa1D4zHNyU

[Groundloop]

Didn't they notice it's grey?

[weemonkey]

Didn't they notice it's grey?

And it ain't giant either.

Wonder if they have relocated the stab stuff to somewhere less goose susceptible.....

[MG]

And it ain't giant either.

Wonder if they have relocated the stab stuff to somewhere less goose susceptible.....

Well let’s hope the crews are happy then, otherwise they’ve got it wrong on all fronts.

[RAFEngO74to09]

HH-60W Jolly Green II begins live-firing weapons testing on:

GAU-2 - a 7.62mm Gatling gun with a 3,000 rounds per minute fire rate.
GAU-18 - a .50 caliber legacy machine gun with a 650-800 round fire rate.
GAU-21 - a .50 caliber newly-designed machine gun with a 950-1100 round fire rate.

13 photos here: https://www.afmc.af.mil/News/Article-Display/Article/2349334/jolly-green-ii-begins-live-fire-testing/

[MPN11]

I always thought it was a Jolly good aircraft. Like Albert, long-lived.

[Martin the Martian]

They've almost run out of variant suffix letters for the H-60. The only ones they haven't used are E, I, O, U, X, Y and Z.

[RAFEngO74to09]

They've almost run out of variant suffix letters for the H-60. The only ones they haven't used are E, I, O, U, X, Y and Z.

HH-60U is in use for the small, unique fleet used for "security" and other duties at Area 51.

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/30245/area-51-has-its-own-unique-fleet-of-hh-60u-ghost-hawk-helicopters

[BATCO]

The USAF is ordering 108 x HH-60W.


I think that is the more remarkable piece of information. Especially given the number of battlefield helicopters operated by the US Army (plus USMC types).

Batco

[Could be the last?]

Maybe we could increase the order by 30, and fill the gap the Puma is about to leave?

[chopper2004]

On Moody AFB FB Site says the received them today (photos courtesy of ACC)

cheers


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[RAFEngO74to09]

Excellent 1hr+ walkaround detailing all the improvements on an HH-60W Jolly Green II over an HH-60G Pave Hawk:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPc578CV-78

Earlier walkaround of an HH-60G Pave Hawk:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1b1LMFihSWs

[TBM-Legend]

HH-60W has now officially been named "Jolly Green II" - named after the “green feet” impressions the HH-3E "Jolly Green" would leave after landing in the Vietnam era and later the HH-53 "Super Jolly Green".

The USAF is ordering 108 x HH-60W.

More here:

https://www.af.mil/News/Article-Display/Article/2096008/hh-60w-jolly-green-ii-follows-footprints-of-rescue-giants/

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1200x671/191106_f_oc707_0702_fb5a033adb8c1c2aaffe534329618813b6c1ed28 .jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOgbD2Qb3w4


..thanks for posting: actually "Jolly Green" name came from the cartoon 'Jolly Green Giant' which originated on 'Giant Green Peas' packet because the original Jolly Green HH-3 looked like a green giant.

Enjoy this -https://www.historynet.com/brave-jolly-green.htm

[SASless]

Perhaps the UK. MoD might look hard at the new improved Black Hawk as a replacement for the antique Pumas.

Hard to beat success....a concept foreign to the MoD when it comes to buying off. the shelf aircraft.

[HAS59]

The US Army had it right when they named their helicopters after American First Nation tribes.
The US Air Force, bless them, will insist on giving their aircraft silly nicknames, often ignoring the official 'reporting name'.
This is just the latest - taken to the ultimate level of stupidity by making an annoying and often confusing nickname into an official designation.
I could cite several examples but the informed audience need no reminding of them.
Don't their armed forces branches ever consult each other?

[Vzlet]

Well, AR 70-28 didn't prevent "Huey" from becoming a more commonly used term than than "Iroquois".

[SASless]

It was more the HU-1 tag that led to the Huey....than Iroquois. Just saying of course.

[Vzlet]

Exactly -- an unforeseen factor that trumped officialdom.

[TBM-Legend]

knick names abound in the USAF:

Huey, Hog, Viper, Buff, Snake, Jolly Green, Sluff, Oscar Deuce, Scooter, T-Bird, Tweet, Herky Bird, Gooney Bird, Bone, and so on...

The designation is centralised but the name is general applied by the relevant service introducing the equipment...

[HAS59]

and ... with the possible exception of the Huey, can't you see just how silly they are?

[chopper2004]

Whiskey ACM against Hind
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/new-hh-60w-rescue-helicopter-had-its-first-dogfight-with-an-mi-24-hind

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NnCWfs0pvcg&feature=emb_logo

cheers

[SASless]

ACM.....looked more like some formation flying and some photo opportunities.

Now equip both sets of aircraft with simulated weapons as used in Aggressor Training for the FJ's to include on the Door Guns and you would have my full attention.

Memory serves me the USAF shot down a US Army Blackhawk (maybe two) in Iraq using F-15's.

[212man]

ACM.....looked more like some formation flying and some photo opportunities.

Now equip both sets of aircraft with simulated weapons as used in Aggressor Training for the FJ's to include on the Door Guns and you would have my full attention.

Memory serves me the USAF shot down a US Army Blackhawk (maybe two) in Iraq using F-15's.

Yes - 2. Mistaken for Hinds. Killed a bunch of pax too.

[chevvron]

The US Army had it right when they named their helicopters after American First Nation tribes.
The US Air Force, bless them, will insist on giving their aircraft silly nicknames, often ignoring the official 'reporting name'.
This is just the latest - taken to the ultimate level of stupidity by making an annoying and often confusing nickname into an official designation.
I could cite several examples but the informed audience need no reminding of them.
Don't their armed forces branches ever consult each other?
Don't forget there was another 'Blackhawk', it being the Sikorsky S 67, so the H 60 family should be the 'Blackhawk 11'.

[chevvron]

Perhaps the UK. MoD might look hard at the new improved Black Hawk as a replacement for the antique Pumas.

Hard to beat success....a concept foreign to the MoD when it comes to buying off. the shelf aircraft.
I seem to recall Westland's trying to set up production of the Blackhawk at Yeovil in the mid '80s together with a re-engined UK version called the WS70; a provisional order of 88 aircraft were signed for by Saudi Arabia and just 2 aircraft were assembled and flown, one with Rolls Royce engines but lack of government funding as the EH101 was being developed meant the project just died.
Anyway what was wrong with the Westland W30?

[Lonewolf_50]

The US Army had it right when they named their helicopters after American First Nation tribes.
The US Air Force, bless them, will insist on giving their aircraft silly nicknames, often ignoring the official 'reporting name'.
This is just the latest - taken to the ultimate level of stupidity by making an annoying and often confusing nickname into an official designation.
I could cite several examples but the informed audience need no reminding of them.
Don't their armed forces branches ever consult each other?It's worth saying over a year later:
Lighten up, Francis.


Yes - 2. Mistaken for Hinds. Killed a bunch of pax too.
Some of them were from allied nations and part of the UN Missions in Northern Iraq in support of Kurds, after Desert Storm. If memory serves, 26 souls lost.

[SASless]

Admittedly the US Naval Aviation community have some nick names for their aircraft too.

One such among several is the Phrog......the Boeing Vertol CH-46.

[chopper2004]

33rd RQS receives theirs

https://www.kadena.af.mil/News/Article/3658642/hh-60ws-move-to-kadena/


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[chopper2004]

https://www.afrc.af.mil/News/Article-Display/Article/3668603/wing-receives-first-new-hh-60w-jolly-green-ii-helicopter/

cheers

[JohnDixson]

Chevvron, I heard a differing version of the WS-70 situation, but it ended with the Saudis buying standard UH-60s thru the US State Dept FMS ( Foreign Military Sales ) Program, wherein countries friendly to the US buy equipment at the same price as the US Military pays. Pretty sure that applies to spares etc as well.

[Wee Weasley Welshman]

Jesus Christ is there any job that thing couldn't do in our military service? And if it couldn't then a Chinook would come in and do it instead?

4 squadrons of those would be a game changer.

WWW

[charliegolf]

Jesus Christ is there any job that thing couldn't do in our military service? And if it couldn't then a Chinook would come in and do it instead?

4 squadrons of those would be a game changer.

WWW

It's not Westland/Airbus/Leo/Yeovil. End of.

CG

[JohnDixson]

Chopper 2004, I think all those who became aware of the wartime rescues performed by the original Jollies and their A1 escorts will cheer on the designation Jolly Green.
You know, a lot of folks have a frame of reference re pilot rescues during the Korean War created by the Bridges of Toko-Ri movie. But the fact is that the USAF also flew Sikorsky S-51s doing rescues and one of those pilots, Cliff Brown, joined the test pilot office at Sikorsky afterwards. He did perform a rescue which had some humorous aspects, such that one day after the Vietnam war was winding down, we were visited by some of the Son Tay rescue raid pilots and they came looking to meet Cliff as his rescue from Korea had created some celebrated notoriety. Will send separately.