ME IR validity no longer required for TR

[Ramses II]

Hi All,

I got a confirmation by mail from the licence issuing authority in my country that if I were to start a Typerating, it is no longer required to have a valid MEIR as EASA has changed this(as in it is allowed to have passed the validity date)

However a lot of Airlines are still asking for it to be valid. Do you guys have any information about this or can shine some more light on it?

[Pinuz89]

I'm not aware of any "new" disposal about EASA, but as far as I know a ME-IR is a requirement for a TR.
The only thing that your CAA could accept is an expired rating, (I know coz it was my case), but it varies from authority to authority.
For instance, I completed a TR with the ME-IR but an expired MEP (in UK).
In Italy they would haven't accepted.

Furthermore I've been called for a lot of interviews without caring about it.
So, unless you really want to fly twin MEP, it's a waste of money to renew this rating.

[Ramses II]

https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/PDF/?uri=CELEX:32018R1974&from=EN

I dont know if links are allowed but in this amendment from EASA on page 52 it says the following an I quote the relevant piece:


"b) Multi-pilot aeroplanes Applicants for the issue of the first type rating course for a multi-pilot aeroplane shall be student pilots currently undergoing training on an MPL training course or comply with the following requirements:
(1) have at least 70 hours of flight experience as PIC in aeroplanes;
(2) hold or have held a multi-engine IR(A);"

This states that it no longer has to be valid.

[jakekenobi]

https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/PDF/?uri=CELEX:32018R1974&from=EN

I dont know if links are allowed but in this amendment from EASA on page 52 it says the following an I quote the relevant piece:


"b) Multi-pilot aeroplanes Applicants for the issue of the first type rating course for a multi-pilot aeroplane shall be student pilots currently undergoing training on an MPL training course or comply with the following requirements:
(1) have at least 70 hours of flight experience as PIC in aeroplanes;
(2) hold or have held a multi-engine IR(A);"

This states that it no longer has to be valid.

If this info is valid, its amazing find, no more re-validation and renewals , huge money savings...

I know a friend who went for initial type rating C550 in London a month ago and his ir-me has been expired but they didn`t made an issue of it.

Great find , thanks for this

[JuliusCaesar]

When would you say this new update of FCL is from?
Has this info been out for a while, or is it brand new?

[Ramses II]

It is effective from 20-12-2019, I dont know when they announced this though, I was only aware of this because I got in contact with the licence issuing authority in my country because of my MEIR renewal.

[rudestuff]

It's been talked about on Pprune before

[JuliusCaesar]

Alright, good to know.

Thanks mates

[Hawker400]

Regardless if an airline requests it. Just do it.

You as a pilot should have your licenses valid if you are actively flying or planning to anyways. It goes to show you either didn't fly, or cared enough about staying proficient.

It's an extremely expensive profession to get into and I am speaking from experience as someone who kept minimum ratings valid (MEIR etc) for 3 years while converting to EASA/looking for work.
Even had to do an MCC even though EASA said I was exempted to get my foot in the door. (airline said I needed it so I got it)

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[magicmick]

Right now the recruitment climate for freshly qualified low hours pilots is brutal, there is not and never will be a shortage of newly qualified low hours ladies and gents. What you have to ask is why would any airline take on someone with a lapsed MEIR when there are plenty of applicants with in date ratings? Just because a rule has been passed that allows lapsed ratings it doesn’t mean that employers will accept it.